2. TELEGRAM FROM THE VICE CHANCELLOR TO DOCTOR RYERSON AT QUEBEC.

Your attendance next Thursday absolutely necessary to prevent the Senate from condemning the Report of the Commissioners.

TORONTO, 7th March, 1863.

JAMES PATTON.

3. TELEGRAM FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO CHANCELLOR Connor.

Crooks' proposed Resolutions now before me, in reference to Report of Commissioners. Such a motion would be out of order, as founded on no authority by Statute. Individual Members can say and do as they please; but it is for the Government, and not for the Senate, to deal with the Report.

QUEBEC, March 9th, 1863.

J. S. MACDONALD.

4. LETTER FROM J. GEORGE HODGINS TO DOCTOR RYERSON.

1 heard yesterday from a Member of the Senate, and also from another Person, that a great effort will be made to oust Mr. Patton from the Vice Chancellorship. The scheme seems well laid, I am told, and the prospects of carrying it out appear fair. The Member of the Senate, to whom I refer, seemed to think that they had the countenance and aid of the Government in this Scheme-at all events the Government have given the opponents of the Vice Chancellor . . . the means of doing it. They have got the Government to appoint five new Members, hostile to the affiliation scheme, so that when the time comes, no outsiders will be able to outvote them. These appointments was step the first, which was well planned and carried out. The second step was the public Meeting against the Report in the St. Lawrence Hall. This went off to their liking, and on it step number three will be based. That is for Mr. Crooks to propose a vote of censure on Mr. Patton. He will seek to carry it in such a way that Mr. Patton will be forced by the insult to resign, and thus their triumph will be complete. The movement against Mr. Paton seemed to me so vindictive, that I went to Mr. Patton to-day to let him know about it. He was aware of it, and read to me the proposed Resolutions of censure. He is most anxious that you would be there and Principal Leitch and Doctor Nelles, as he regards the present as the crisis of the University Question, brought on, in a great degree, by the action of the Government. I told Mr. Patton that I did not think you could come up, as you would have to go down again, and that he ought to try to get the Meeting postponed. This I believe he will try to do.

I suppose you have seen an account of the Meeting in St. Lawrence Hall. Some of those present attacked the Model Grammar School. Mr. Marling, who had prepared the particulars, replied and was warmly seconded by Doctor Lillie.

I do not see why Doctor Fyfe shold be appointed to the Senate as Head of a Baptist affiliated Institution, and the Reverend Albert Carman, Head of the Methodist Episcopal affiliated Seminary left off. I think his appointment would aid the cause, for the necessity of their Institution must make Doctor Carman favourable to a real affiliation scheme.

TORONTO, 7th March, 1863.

J. GEORGE HODGINS.

5. DOCTOR RYERSON TO J. GEORGE HODGINS.

I have just received yours of the 7th instant, and am not surprised at what you state as to the designs and efforts of certain parties in the Senate. I have received Telegrams from Doctor Nelles and Vice Chancellor Patton,-also a Letter from the latter, enclosing a copy of Mr. Crooks' proposed Resolutions of censure. I have sought to checkmate these parties by getting the Attorney General to telegraph to Doctor

Connor, the Chancellor, that the Resolutions are not in order, etcetera. I also got him to-day to write to Doctor McCaul to the same effect, and that such a proceeding was suicidal on the part of the Senate, as well as usurping a function that belongs to the Government. He read to me his Letter to Doctor McCaul, which was very strong. He also gave me a copy of the Telegram to Doctor Connor. I sent a copy of it yesterday to Mr. Patton.

(NOTE. This Telegram is given as Number three on page 8 herewith.)

I have written to Mr. Patton requesting him to write to me on Thursday night, after the Meeting of the Senate, the result of the proceedings; also for him to request vou to telegraph me on Friday the result. I hope you will request Doctor Nelles to write to me, as I wish to know all the particulars, and the temper and aspect of the parties concerned.

QUEBEC, 10th March, 1863.

EGERTON RYERSON.

6. VICE CHANCELLOR PATTON TO DOCTOR RYERSON.

As requested in your last favour, I hasten to inform you of the result of the Meeting. Mr. Adam Crooks proceeded to enlarge upon his Resolutions and had spoken some five minutes, when I rose to a point of order and drew the Chancellor's attention to the provisions of a Statute of the Senate, requiring ten days' notice of a special Meeting; that the Meeting of the Fourth instant was a special Meeting, called for the three-fold object: First: Of adopting the Annual Report. Second: Of appointing a special Medical Matriculation Examination. Third: Of disposing of any unfinished business. And the Notices sent out to each Member specified these objects, so that no business could be brought up other than mere routine, unless specially set forth in the Notice so given, that the Meeting of to-night was only an adjournment of the Special Meeting, and, consequently, only for disposing of the unfinished business of which such special Notice had been given. The Chancellor concurred in the objections thus raised to the legality of our proceedings. Mr. Crooks so far modified his course as to agree that his Resolutions should stand as a Motion for any special Meeting, or for the next Meeting of the Senate, whenever it might take place.

Mr. T. A. McLean then demanded of the Chancellor that he should call a Special Meeting in ten days, but the feeling of the Senate was averse to such an unusual course, and he finally moved that the Chancellor be requested to call one. To this he replied that he would be governed by what appeared to him to be for the best interests of the University. It was then demanded by others that copies of the Commisioners' Report should be furnished to every Member of the Senate, and that then they would be able to take up the question. To this the Chancellor replied that he would this evening write to the Attorney General on the subject, and he felt that he could not well refuse the apparently general request of the Senate that a Special Meeting should be called, adding, however, that it could not be for a fortnight, as he would be engaged in Court.

Here then, I would draw your attention to the necessity for the Attorney General, at once telegraphing to the Chancellor not to call any Special Meeting. The regular Sessions of the Senate will commence on Tenth of May, and there is now no business whatever remaining over to call for a Meeting any sooner. It would be highly desirable also for him to write to Mr. Cockburn asking him to oppose the discussion even of the Resolutions. If the Attorney General has influence with Professor Wilson, Professor Croft and Professor Cherriman, a similar request to them would be of great service. But, under any circumstances, he should be requested to write to the Chancellor, Doctor McCaul, and Mr. Cockburn on the subject.

The animus existing may be inferred from the fact that Mr. D. E. Blake moved, seconded by Mr. Adam Crooks, that the Bursar's Letter, relative to the excess of the Expenditure of the University over Income should be referred to a Committee, con

sisting of Doctor McCaul, Professor Cherriman, Doctor Lillie, Mr. Crooks, Doctor Smith, and Doctor Aikins. On Doctor Willis observing that my name was omitted, when it appears on every other Committee,) Mr. Blake added the names of the Chancellor and Vice Chancellor to the Committee, at the same time remarking that, as I was a salaried Officer, it had been omitted, and that the recommendations of a former Committee had only been partially carried out,-alluding to the non-reduction of the salary of the Vice Chancellor from £200 to £100. I have been told that their object is to drive me from the Vice Chancellor's Chair, and to get in that office one of their own views, and that they are determined to force me into a resignation, but, being forewarned, I have made up my mind not to fall into the trap, as my duty to you and to the other Members of the Senate, who have acted with me is not to give up a position which to a great extent gives me a controlling power, at least in many things.

In this move also, I checkmated these parties by suggesting that, as the Bursar's Letter referred to the Endowment, which was of a joint character, that the expenditure of University College also should form the subject of report, and that the Committee should confer with any Committee of the College Council, which may be named by that Body. Doctor McCaul stated that a similar Communication had been addressed to that Council, and was laid before them. He suggested the withdrawal of his name and Mr. Cherriman's from the Senate Committee. Doctor Willis and I think Doctor Leitch

were, therefore, chosen as their substitutes.

Now the object of this Committee was only to re-echo the former recommendation as regards the salary of the Vice Chancellor, but, as it now stands, the College Authorities will have to stand on the defensive. And now that I see the force and character of the opposition which is waged against me, I will, at the proper time, pay particular attention to the subject of increased Salaries, Fees, and Expenditure on College Buildings, etcetera.

I have thus given you full particulars of the Meeting, in order that you may be fully alive to the feeling which has been excited at the Meeting at which there were twenty-four present.

At the last Meeting, (on the 4th March,) there were fourteen present, and it was looked upon as a very large Meeting, so that the "drumming up" process had been resorted to.

I am truly obliged for the very great interest you have taken in this matter, and I earnestly hope that, when the question does come up, we will have your powerful aid. Pray urge the Attorney General to telegraph, or write, at once.

TORONTO, March 12th, 1863.

7. THE VICE CHANCELLOR TO J. GEORGE HODGINS.

JAMES PATTON.

Doctor Ryerson, in his Letter to me of yesterday, desires that the result of last night's Meeting should be telegraphed through you. Will you kindly call at my office during the day, so that I may inform you of what took place.

TORONTO, March 13th, 1863.

JAMES PATTON.

8. TELEGRAPH SENT BY J. GEORGE HODGINS TO DOCTOR RYERSON. Resolutions deferred on point of order. Crooks urged so strongly to call Special Meeting that unless the Attorney General immediately telegraphs him that it is an inadvisable proceeding, he may do so. The Vice Chancellor has written you. TORONTO, 13th March, 1863

J. GEORGE HODGINS.

9. VICE CHANCELLOR PATTON TO DOCTOR RYERSON.

At a Meeting of the Senate on the 12th of March (1) Mr. Adam Crooks gave notice: "That at a Special Session of the Senate to be called for the purpose, or at the next regular Session of the Senate, (on the 10th of May,) he would introduce the Resolutions of which he has already given notice at the last Meeting."

(2) Moved by Mr. T. A. McLean, seconded by Doctor L. W. Smith: "That the Chancellor be requested to call a Special Session of the Senate for the purpose of considering the Resolutions of which notice has been given by Mr. Crooks."

(3) Moved by Mr. Adam Crooks, seconded by Mr. D. E. Blake: "That the Letter of the Bursar's referring to the excess of the Expenditure of the University over its Income be referred to a Committee consisting of Doctor McCaul, Doctor Leitch, Doctor Aikins, Mr. Crooks, Professor Cherriman, Doctor Lillie, Doctor Smith and Mr. Blake, to report upon the matter, -with instructions to suggest measures for the reduction of such Expenditure."

Here the Motion ended, when I pointed out that, so far as the University was concerned, there was no excess of Expenditure over Income, that it was the College Expenditure that was in excess, and that the Bursar's Letter only referred to the Endowment generally.

The object of Number three of Mr. Adam Crooks' Resolutions is to report against the salary of the Vice Chancellor, and this is done for the purpose of forcing me to resign, so that one of the opponents of the Commissioners' Report may be named to fill the Vice Chancellor's Chair. No doubt the Committee will report that the Salary should be done away with, and recommend the Senate to pass a Statute repealing Section Six of Statute Number Four, under which the Vice Chancellor receives £200 per annum, but even should it pass the Senate, (and that is not improbable, with the large hostile vote lately added,) it will have to be confirmed by the Government, and I very much doubt if the Attorney General, when made aware of the spirit and animus of the motion of these Gentlemen, will sanction it, and, if he does not, it will be a dead letter.

Any one knowing anything whatever of the nature of the Endowment must be aware that University College absorbs the larger share of it,the Expenditure of the College being $30,000, against the University of $13,000, and that, while great reductions were made in the cost of Scholarships. in Examiners' Fees, etcetera, no reduction, whatever, has been made in the College Expenditures. (See pages 80 and 93 of the Commissioners' Report.)

Unless the Government interferes, another $1,000 will be added in 1863 to the Expenditure of the College, by their own answers, (page 80 of the Report,) for the purpose of giving Doctor Wilson, Professors Cherriman, Hincks, Chapman and Doctor Forneri an addditional salary of $200 each, as if the $2.200 already received by them were not sufficient for the services rendered by them; and that for only eight months, out of the twelve, in the shape of work,-a perfect otium cum dignitate! Surely the Government will interfere to stop such reckless Expenditure as this, at a time when the College Income does not equal the demands upon it! should nothing be done before the 31st of March, they will all five have received a quarterly payment at the increased rate. One word from the Attorney General to the Bursar would cause him to refuse payment of this newly increased allowance. It is one thing to increase the salaries of Professors, and another to seek, from unworthy motives, to reduce one only,—and that one not a Professor.

There were present at the Meeting of the 12th March, twenty-four members, but, as a general rule, the number in atttendance does not exceed ten.

9. My Letter of last night will have given you all the particulars of the adjourned Meeting, and this afternoon Mr. Hodgins telegraphed the result, as well as to ask you to see the Attorney General and have him telegraph at once to Judge Connor, the Chancellor, not to call a Special Meeting. I trust that he will act upon your suggestion, so that the matter may be kept in statu quo until the regular Session of the Senate, commencing on the tenth of May.

Can you not induce the Attorney General to approve the Statute, in regard to the travelling expenses of Members of the Senate residing outside of Tronto, which has been so long in the possession of the Government? This would provide for the payment of the travelling expenses of Doctor Leitch, the Vicar General, and Doctor Nelles, and

would add but a trifling sum to the expenses of the University. We would then be able to have continuous sittings of the Senate, under the provisions of your Statute.

Doctor Leitch, Doctor Nelles and the Vicar General very kindly called at my Office this forenoon, and we had a lengthened consultation on the position of things. We al! felt that a Senate's swamping process had been resorted to, and that some "evil genius" in the Cabinet had suggested the appointments of the new Members. Now, the only remedy is to counterbalance these by fresh appointments, and the following were, therefore, recommended: :

1. The Reverend J. H. Mackerras, Presbyterian, Bowmanville; 2, The Reverend F. Walsh, Roman Catholic, Tronto; 3, The Reverend S. D. Rice, Methodist, Hamilton; 4, The Reverend T. B. Fuller, Church of England, Toronto; /, Doctor Berryman, of Rolph's School, Toronto; and if we could get in another, either Doctor Anson Green, Methodist, or the Reverend William Bain, of Scarboro. (Presbyterian). These appointments would counterbalance the late appointment of a Chancellor and five Members, videlicet:-1, Reverend William McClure; 2, Reverend R. A. Fyle; 3, D. E. B'ake; 4, C. F. Eliot; 5, Mr. J. H. Morris. So that if we could get the other five appointed the additional debating strength in the Senate would enable us to hold our own. 1 would be glad if you would press upon the Attorney General the Justice of such a proceeding. and he will thus have an opportunity of remedying matters.

It is only right that the Rolph Medical School should be represented on the Senate, and Doctor Berryman wou'd be the most likely to attend. Doctor Rolph would hardly do so, I fear, but if he would, his presence would have very great weight. If at all practicable, we should endeavour to secure the able debating aid of the Reverend S. D. Rice.

Herewith, I will enclose a Memorandum, which, at first, was only intended as a copy of the notices and motions still pending in the Senate, but before I was aware of it three pages of my Letter had assumed the appearance of a Brief. Possibly, however, they may be of some service to you.

Doctor Leitch mentioned that the Honourable Alexander Campbell had been engaged to prepare a Bill, to be introduced during the Parliamentary Session, and, had it not been for this Meeting of last Evening. he and Doctor Nelles, together with the Vicar General, would have been en route for Quebec, but they decided that they would not now leave until after the recess. They were regretting that they will thus lose the great benefit of your counsel and influence,-but the result of last evening's proceedings could not have been foreseen, and they did well to attend. TORONTO, March 13th, 1863.

JAMES PATTON.

10. NEW MEMBERS OF THE SENATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO.

Owing to the preponderance, as Members of the Senate, of Representatives of the Toronto University and of University College, Doctor Ryerson, while in Quebec in 1863, submitted to the Government, in the following Letter, the names of five additional Members, connected with various Educational Institutions, instead of four of those suggested by the ViceChancellor :-

1. The Right Reverend J. J. Lynch, D.D., Roman Catholic Bishop of Toronto, (subsequently Archbishop,) or the Very Reverend John Wa'sh, Vicar General, representing St. Michael's College*; 2, Mr. T. J. Rober son, A.M., Trinity College. Dublin, Head Master of the Normal School for Upper Canada. 3, the Reverend W. F. Checkley, A.M., Trinity College, Dubin, Rector of the Model Grammar School for Upper Canada; 4. * Afterwards Bishop of London, and subsequently Archbishop of Toronto.