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Ghorum no. Con ay. N. J. ay. Pen no. Del. ay. Md

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no. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no.—[Here enter the whole in the words entered

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"Resolved that in the original forma

The whole, thus passed is in the words following viz "tion of the Legislature of the U. S. the first branch thereof shall consist of sixty five members, of which number N. Hampshire shall send 3. Massts. 8. Rh. I. 1. Connt. 5. N. Y. 6. N. J. 4. Pena. 8. "Del. 1. Maryd, 6. Virga, 10. N. C. 5. S. C. 5. Geo. 3.—But as the present situation of the States may "probably alter in the number of their inhabitants, the Legislature of the U. S. shall be authorized "from time to time to apportion the number of Reps.; and in case any of the States shall hereaf"ter be divided, or enlarged by, addition of territory, or any two or more States united, or any new [Upon the words,States created with the limits of the U. S. the Legislature of the U. S. shall possess authority to [Here enter the regulate the number of Reps, in any of the foregoing cases, upon the principle of their number "of inhabitants, according to the provisions hereafter mentioned, namely-provided always that "representation ought to be proportioned according to direct taxation; and in order to ascertain "the alteration in the direct taxation, which may be required from time to time by the changes in the relative circumstances of the States Resolved that a [“ces" stricken out] Census be taken within six years from the 1st, meeting of the Legislature of the U. S. and once within the term of every 10 years afterwards of all the inhabitants of the U. S. in the manner and according to the ratio recommended by Congress in their Resolution of April 18. 1783. and that the Legislature ["es" effaced] "of the U. S. shall proportion the direct taxation accordingly Resolved, that all bills for raising pr A "or appropriating money, and for fixing the salaries of officers of the Govt. of the U. S. shall origi"nate in the first branch of the Legislature of the U. S. and shall not be altered or amended in 24. "branch: and that no money shall be drawn from the public Treasury, but in pursuance of appro"priations to be originated in the 1st-branch. Resolvd, that in the 2d, branch of the Legislature

nal July ["16" stricken out]]", was' pasted a slip of paper upon which the words from, "The whole, thus passed",

to, have an equal vote", printed here in small type, were written.]

of the U. S. each State shall have an equal vote"

The 6th Resol: in the Report from the Com of the whole House, which had been postponed in order to consider the 7 & 8th Resol's was now resumed. see the Resol

possess

The 15. member "That the Nat! Legislature ought to ["enjoy" stricken out] the Legislative Rights vested in Cong by the Confederation." Agreed to nem. Con.

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"And moreover to legislate in all cases to which the separate States are incompetent; or in which the harmony of the U. S. may be interrupted by the exercise of individual

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legislation," read for a question

Mr Butler calls for some explanation ["of" written upon "as"] the extent of this power; particularly of the word

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incompetent. The vagueness of terms rendered it impossible for["m" stricken out] any precise judgment to be formed.

Mr Ghorum. The vagueness of the terms constitutes the propriety of them. We are now establishing general principles, to be extended hereafter into details which will be precise & explicit.

Mr Rutlidge, urged the objection started by Mr Butler and moved that the clause should be committed to the end that a specification of the powers comprised in the general terms, might be reported.

On the question for a commitment, the States were equally divided Mas. no. Con ay. N. J. no. Pa no. Del. no. M ay. Va ay. N. C. no. S. C. ay. Geo. ay: So it was lost.

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M Randolph. The vote of this morning [involving an equality of ["votes" stricken out] in 2a branch] had embarrassed the business extremely. All the powers given the

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Report from Com of the whole, were founded on the supposition that a Proportional representation was to prevail in both branches of the Legislature-When he came here this morning his purpose was to have offered some propositions. that might if possible have united a great majority of votes, and might provide agst the danger suspected on the part of the smaller States, by enumerating the cases in which it might lie, and allowing an equality of votes in such cases.‡ But finding from the preceding vote that they persist in demanding an equal vote in all cases, ["and" stricken out] that they have succeeded in obtaining it, and that N. York if present would probably be on the same side, he could not but think we were unprepared to discuss this subject further. ["since" stricken out] It will probably be in vain to come to any final decision with a bare majority on either side For these reasons he wished the Con["v" written upon "j"]

I see the paper in appendix comunicated by M'. R. to J. M. July 10.

ention might adjourn, that the large States might consider the steps proper to be taken in the present solemn crisis of the business, and that the small States might also deliberate on the means of conciliation.

Mr Patterson, thought with M R. that it was high time. for the Convention to adjourn that the rule of secrecy ought to be rescinded, and that our Constituents should be consulted. No conciliation could be admissable on the part of the smaller States on any other ground than that of an equality of votes in the 2 branch. If M Randolph would reduce to form his motion for an adjournment sine die, he would second it with all his heart.

Gen! Pinkney wished to know of M' R. whether he meant an adjournment sine die, or only an adjournment for the day. If the former was meant, it differed much from his idea He could not think of going to S. Carolina, and returning again to this place. Besides it was chimerical to suppose that the States if consulted would ever accord separately, and beforehand.

Mr Randolph, had never entertained an idea of an adjournment sine die; & was sorry that his meaning had been so readily & strangely misinterpreted. He had in view merely ["that" stricken out] an adjournment till tomorrow in order that some conciliatory experiment might if possible be devised, and that in case the smaller States should continue to hold back, the larger might then take such measures, he would not say what, as might be necessary.

an opportunity

Mr Patterson seconded the adjournment till tomorrow, as ["it" stricken out] seemed to be wished by the larger States to deliberate further on conciliatory expedients.

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On the question for adjourning till tomorrow, the States were

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Mas. no. Con no. N. J. ay. Pa ay. Del. no. M ay. V ay.

Mr Broome thought it his duty to declare his opinion agst an adjournment sine die, as had been urged by M Patterson. Such a measure he thought would be fatal. Something must be done by the Convention tho' it should by a bare majority.

Mr Gerry observed that Mass was opposed to an adjournment, because they saw no new ground of compromise. But as it seemed to the opinion of so many States that a trial sha be made, the State would now concur in the adjournm

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'M' Rutlidge could see no need of an adjourn because he could see no chance of a compromise. The little States were fixt. They had repeatedly & solemnly declared themselves to be so. All that the large States then had then to do, was to decide whether they would yield or not. For his part he conceived that altho' we could not do what we thought best, in itself, we ought to do something. Had we not better keep the Gov up a little longer, hoping that another Convention will supply our omissions, than abandon every thing to hazard. Our Constituents will be very little satisfied with us if we take the latter course.

Mr Randolph & M King renewed the motion to adjourn till tomorrow.

On the question Mas. ay. Con no. N. J. ay. Ра ay.

Del. no.

On the morning following before the hour of the Convention a number of the members ["from" stricken out] from the larger States, by common agreement met for the purpose of

who disliked the equality of votes

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into two opinions was unavoidable

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a failure of

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consulting on the proper steps to be taken in consequence of the vote in favor of an equal Representation in the 2a branch, and the apparent inflexibility of the smaller States on that point-Several members from the latter States also attended. The time was wasted in vague conversation ["on" written upon "of"] the subject, without any specific proposition or agreement. It appeared indeed that the opinions of the members ["varied much" stricken out] much as to the importance of that point, and as to the policy of risking any general act of the Convention by inflexibly opposing it["s" stricken out]. Several of them supposing that no good Governn could or would be built on that foundation, and that as a division of the Convention ["was to prevail," stricken out] it would be better that the side comprising the principal States, and a majority of the people of America, should propose a scheme of Gov! to the States, than that a scheme should be proposed on the other side, would have concurred in a firm opposition to the smaller States, and in a separate recommendation, if eventually necessary. Others seemed inclined to ["concur" stricken out] to the smaller States, and to concur in such an Act however imperfect & exceptionable, as might be agreed on by the ["entire" stricken out] Convention as a body, tho' decided by a bare majority of States and by a minority of the people of the U. States. It is probable that the result of this consultation ["seemed to" stricken out] the smaller States that they had nothing to apprehend from a Union of the larger, in any plan whatever agst the equality of votes in the 2 branch.

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