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CHAPTER XIV.

THE DEBATES WITH LINCOLN.

CHICAGO, ILL., July 24, 1858. "Hon. S. A. Douglas:

"My dear Sir:-Will it be agreeable to you to make an arrangement for you and myself to divide time and address the same audiences the present canvass? Mr. Judd, who will hand you this, is authorized to receive your answer; and, if agreeable to you, to enter into the terms of such an arrange

ment.

"Your obedient servant,

"A. LINCOLN."

This is the note received by Douglas a week after his return from Springfield. On the same day he returned the following answer:

"Hon. A. Lincoln:

"CHICAGO, ILL., July 24, 1858.

I went to

"Dear Sir:-Your note of this date * was handed me by Mr. Judd. * * Springfield last week for the purpose of conferring with the Democratic State Central Committee upon

the mode of conducting the canvass, and with them * * * made a list of appointments covering the entire period until late in October. The people of the several localities have been notified of the times and places of the meetings. * * * I cannot refrain from expressing my surprise, if it was your original intention to invite such arrangement, that you should have waited until after I had made my appointments, in as much as we were both here in Chicago together for several days after my arrival, and again at Bloomington, Atlanta, Lincoln and Springfield, where it was well known I went for the purpose of consulting with the State Central Committee and agreeing upon the plan of campaign. * I will, in order to accommodate you, as far as it is in my power to do so, take the responsibility of making an arrangement with you for a discussion between us at one prominent point in each congressional district in the State, except the Second and Sixth, where we have both spoken and in each of which you had the concluding speech. If agreeable to you, I will indicate the following places as the most suitable in the several congressional districts at which we should speak, towit: Freeport, Ottawa, Galesburg, Quincy, Alton, Jonesboro and Charleston.

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"Very respectfully, your most obedient servant, "S. A. DOUGLAS."..

Lincoln replied:

"SPRINGFIELD, July 29, 1858.

"Hon. S. A. Douglas:

Dear Sir: Yours of the 24th in relation to an arrangement to divide time and address the same

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audiences, is received; and, in apology for not sooner replying, allow me to say that, when I sat by you at dinner yesterday, I was not aware that you had answered my note, nor, certainly, that my own note had been presented to you. An hour after, I saw a copy of your answer in the Chicago Times, and reaching home I found the original awaiting As to your surprise that I did not sooner make the proposal to divide time with you, I can only say, I made it as soon as I resolved to make it. I did not know but that such a proposal would come from you; I waited respectfully to I agree to an arrangement for us to speak at the seven places you have named and at your own times, provided you name the times at once, so that I, as well as you, can have to myself the time not covered by the arrangement. As to the other details, I wish perfect reciprocity, and no more. I wish as much time as you and that conclusions shall alternate. That is all. "Your obedient servant,

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A. LINCOLN."

On the next day Douglas wrote:

BEMENT, PIATT Co., ILL., July 30, 1858. "Dear Sir:-Your letter, dated yesterday, accepting my proposition for a joint discussion at one prominent point in each congressional district

* was received this morning. The times and places designated are as follows:

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Ottawa, La Salle County
Freeport, Stephenson County
Jonesboro, Union County

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August 21, 1858.

August 27, 1858. September 15, 1858.

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"I agree to your suggestion that we shall alternately open and close the discussion. I will speak at Ottawa one hour, you can reply, occupying an hour and a half, and I will then follow for half an hour. At Freeport you shall open the discussion and speak one hour; I will follow for an hour and a half, and you can then reply for half an hour. We will alternate in like manner in each successive place.

Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
"S. A. DOUGLAS.”

To which Lincoln replied:

"Hon. S. A. Douglas:

"SPRINGFIELD, July 31, 1858.

"Dear Sir:-Yours of yesterday, naming places, time and terms for joint discussions, between us, was received this morning. Although by the terms as you propose, you take four openings and closes to my three, I accede, and thus close the arrangement. * * * Your obedient servant,

A. LINCOLN."

Now that Lincoln has become idealized and is safely classed with the great men of all ages, his modest challenge seems like a condescension of the immortal President to his rival. It then seemed an act of temerity bordering on madness. Lincoln's friends thought it rash. Douglas' friends had no

hope that his adversary would be so easily delivered into his hands.

Yet Lincoln was not a despised antagonist. He was the most prominent Republican in Illinois. But Douglas was the recognized head of a great national party, the giant of the Senate, the most resourceful American statesman then living. Through years of desperate battling he had successfully repelled the assaults of Seward, Sumner and Chase. He had more recently encountered with equal ease all the Southern Senators. It seemed a simple task to meet this humble Western lawyer and make his friends ashamed of their senatorial candidate. Douglas did not share the pleasant illusion of his friends. Before leaving Washington, when he heard that Lincoln was nominated, he said to Forney:

"I shall have my hands full. He is the strong man of his party,-full of wit, facts, dates,-and the best stump speaker, with his droll ways and dry jokes, in the West. He is as honest as he is shrewd; and if I beat him my victory will be hardly won.”

Lincoln was burning with jealousy. He believed himself to be Douglas' full equal in mental endowment. Fortune, he thought, with a tinge of bitterness, had dealt with them most unequally, clothing his rival with the glory of a world-renowned statesman, and leaving him to waste his powers on the obscure quarrels of litigious clients in a small town. He yearned for the opportunity to measure himself with the great Senator on a conspicuous stage.

This series of debates was a rare piece of strategy on Lincoln's part. Douglas had so long been wrapped in his senatorial toga that his greatness

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