PERMANENT PASTURE ON THE FARM OF DR. J. M. HARRETT AT PRETORIA, DOUGHERTY COUNTY, GA., SEEDED TO CARPET GRASS, DALLIS GRASS, AND LESPEDEZA OR JAPAN CLOVER IN THE SPRING OF 1923. SIMILAR PASTURE ON BROWN COUNTY LANDS

mendations. I shall actively support the appropriation for this matter. I know the sentiment of the western Senators and we shall have their assistance. At any rate I believe we shall have enough votes in the Senate to carry through these projects recommended by Doctor Mead. [Prolonged applause.] We may not get all we want this year, but we will get it within a very short time. That is all I have to say except to thank you. [Applause.]

Mr. MACRAE. Gentlemen, I think our interest still keeps up. I would like to have the conference honor Senator Harris with a rising vote of thanks.

The next item on the program is, "How can funds be obtained for purchase of land and effecting improvements for proposed projects?" The last two speakers have both touched on this, but we have, I hope, with us this morning a man who has done a great deal for this cause, being one of the advisory committee selected by Secretary Work to visit the South and see at first hand whether this program was justifiable and whether conditions in the South would permit of its being carried out, Mr. Daniel C. Roper.

Doctor MEAD. I will say for Mr. Roper that he sent me word a few days ago that it was doubtful whether he could be here. He had a conflicting engagement out of town.

Mr. MACRAE. We are looking for men who can get this appropriation, and we are going to ask Mr. J. M. Patterson, the chairman of the Georgia committee, to tell you something about how to get money that is needed. Mr. Patterson also knows how to get money out of the South. He has the largest pecan orchard in the United States, and I believe is a very, very successful farmer.

Mr. PATTERSON. Just a nut. I went to address a meeting of traffic men a few years ago. I was embarrassed because they had been sitting around the wall like tombstones. When I was to speak I told them that I didn't know whether one nut addressing another bunch of nuts could get anywhere. I feel the same here.

I am not in the habit of making an apology when I am called on to say something. I got a wire just as I was leaving Georgia and I did not know what was in the air, so I am just going to talk a little from the heart on this matter and let you take it home with you.

Between the two propositions of asking Congress to make an appropriation, or seeking private funds in the shape of a foundation from some wealthy man or an association of wealthy men, when that was presented to me after conferring with Doctor Mead and after reflecting on it a little and talking with some of my associates from Georgia, our reaction was to go to Capitol Hill and get this money. [Applause.] We see no reason in the world

why the South, which through its Representatives in Congress has been voting appropriations for similar work in the West for years, amounting to millions and millions of dollars, should not go up there with courage and determination and ask for the little appropriation that is needed to carry on this idea of reclamation in the South, and the more I thought of it the more convinced I was that that is the thing to do.

Mr. Chairman, I can hardly discuss this question in a business way without referring to the action of our committee last night, because the committee on legislation took this matter under advisement last night, and I wish it had come up before I was asked to say something.

Mr. MACRAE. We are going to present those resolutions right now. Allow me to call on Doctor Lewis to read the resolutions. If it is the sense of the meeting, Dr. Burdette G. Lewis, of Florida, will now read the resolutions, so that Mr. Patterson can talk.

Mr. COKER. I do not believe Doctor Lewis is present.

Mr. MACRAE. I will ask Doctor Branson to read the resolutions, because we asked him to review them and give his approval. Mr. Coker was also one of the committee.

Doctor BRANSON. Mr. Chairman, the report as it comes out of the committee meeting is as follows:

REPORT TO THE CONFERENCE ON SOUTHERN RECLAMATION BY ITS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION

Whereas reclamation as now defined is a movement for better homes, for diversified farming, for education based upon the natural endowments of our people, for full use of all modern transportation and market facilities, for the building up of more self-sufficient rural life, and for the fullest application of available scientific knowledge;

Whereas successful demonstration of such a program is essential to our economic, social, and political life; and

Whereas the opportunities and needs of the South make it an appropriate field for these demonstrations: Therefore be it

Resolved, That we recommend as the general plan of development that approved by the Chief of the Bureau of Reclamation, which is based upon the report to the Secretary of the Interior of an able and impartial advisory committee appointed by him, and further upon the detailed reports of the bureau experts made as the result of recent surveys authorized by Congress.

Second. That the Congress be asked to pass at this session such legislation as will authorize the Bureau of Reclamation of the Department of the Interior to carry out this program as rapidly as practicable.

Third. That an appropriation of $14,000,000 be requested, of which $2,000,000 shall be available for one project in each of the following States: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee, in which States expert investigation already has been made; the exact amounts required and used to be determined within these limits by the Bureau of Reclamation.

Fourth. That $1,000,000 be made available for carrying into effect this program in the year 1928, and that not to exceed $3,000,000 be made available in each succeeding year until the program has been completed.

Fifth. That such safeguard be included in the legislation as will insure reasonably that the entire fund appropriated will be returned to the Treasury of the United States, thus permitting the national benefits to accrue without cost to the public.

Sixth. That it is the sense of this conference that such reclamation as is contemplated is national in its purpose, scope, and benefits, and nothing herein is intended to abridge or exclude the rights of any State when impartial investigation, properly undertaken, shows that conditions therein warrant the inclusion of that State in this program.

Only a very slight change of expression is all that I would suggest. (Dr. Burdette G. Lewis entered the auditorium.)

Mr. MACRAE. I will say to Doctor Lewis, who was to have read this report, that the purpose of reading it now is to enable Mr. Patterson to speak in favor of it.

HOW CAN FUNDS BE OBTAINED FOR PURCHASE OF LANDS AND EFFECTING IMPROVEMENTS FOR PROPOSED PROJECTS

By J. M. Patterson, Chairman Georgia Reclamation Committee

The committee met last night and these resolutions were unanimously adopted. In other words, there was no hesitation, no question as to any other source from which the funds might be derived. That is the point that I want to get to you, that the unanimous verdict of the committee was that the Congress of the United States should make this appropriation. The amount and the rate at which it was to be made available year after year seemed to be satisfactory to Mr. Kreutzer, who was there representing Doctor Mead. We were governed by his ideas in that respect.

How are we to get this money? That is the question that I am to discuss. In connection with this, the committee last night planned to have a meeting on January 24 in this city similar to the meeting we had six months ago, having a dinner to which all the Congressmen and Senators from the Southern States would be invited as our guests.

At the previous meeting it was said they had never asked Congress for anything along this line in the South, and as soon as the representative business and agricultural interests of the South came with a definite program they would see that it was put over. This is the answer. This program will be put up to a general conference of Members of the lower and upper Houses on January 24.

How are we going to get it even then? It is easy to put it up. Senator Harris has just made a splendid speech in a very few words. Senator Tyson made practically the same statement yes