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ling by an authentic statement. He contended that the charge of caprice was unfounded. But he conceived that it would be of advantage that the attention of the commanders of regiments was turned to the practicability of maintaining discipline by other modes than by corporal punishment. He implored the honourable baronet to withdray bis motion, otherwise lie 'must give it his negative.
Mr. Lockhart, besides the securities against caprice already mentioned, stated the additional one of a right of appeal from a regimental to a general court inartial. It was not likely that corporal punishment would be inflicted in the local militia, e cpt in very, beinous cases, or where the whole force should be called out in the event of in. vasion, and in these cases he thought the power ought to exist. He contended that no inference could be drawn, from the single instance of the punishment by shame at Madrirl, to the general practice of the French army,
wbich was far severer than ours.
Sir Francis Burdett persisting in his motion, a division took place: For the motion
4 Against it
77 Majority While the gallery was shut, the motion on the dismissal of the late Mr. Dalrymple from the office of hydrographer •to the admiralty was postponed.
HYDE PARK. Mr. Creerey adverted to the advice given to the crown, under the recommendation of the surveyor general of the crown lands, to give leases of certain parts of Hyde park to certain individuals, for the purpose of building. He expatiated on the utility of the park to the metropolis, for the purposes of ornament, recreation, and health, and commented on the impropriety of recommending to the crown to lease out parcels, a practice to which there would be no linit, unless the house should interfere. He adverted to the extraordinary selection made by Mr. Fordyce, the surveyor general of crown lands, for the objects of these grants, among persons of great influence in political parties. He hoped his majesty would interfere, to prevent the diminution of the indulgence hi
therlo granted by the king to his people, and by them in part purchased by the expenditure of the public money; on a late occasion, of not less than 50,0001. for the repair and ornament of those parks. He moved that there be laid before the house a copy of a letter of Mr. Fordyce to the commissioners of the treasury, recommending to make ceriain leases of lands in Hyde park, with the answer thereto,
Mr. Hanbury Tracey seconded the motion, le censured the plan of curtailing Hyde park; but if the measnre was persevered in, he wished the chancellor of the exchequer would include him among those to whom lots were to be given.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer objected that there was no parliamentary ground for the motion, His majesty ceriainly was not likely 10 receive a recommenda, lion on this head contrary to the principles of regard to the convenience of his subjects of the city of London, which he had exercised during his whole reign. The proposition for granting these tracts on lease was before the treasury only since Monday last. No determination was yet coine to upon it, consequently, no communication had been had with his majesty upon the subject, But if the board of treasury should be of opinion to re, commend the plan to his majesty, certainly no right of nomination would be allowed to the surveyor of the crown lands, no favour would be shewn, nor would any other principle than that of a fair open competition ; and far from being a boon to any one, the ground for these houses, and the houses themselves, if it should be thonght fit to build them, would be the dearest in London. But nobody must imagine that it was in contemplation to make the retrenchment of the park a matter of lucre, or that the extent necessary for the recreation of the metro. polis would be narrowed one inch.
Mr. Windham supported the motion. He wanted some security against the execution of the plan now before the treasury. If the papers moved for, were produced for the object assigued by the honourable mover, it would be certain that 110 step would be taken till parliament could turn its attention to this matter in the next session. Though it was proposed to build only eight houses on the verge,
there would be no limit when once the pre. cedent of trenching on the park shopld be introduced. He did not complain of the power the crown had ovet the parks : he wished to know how the case stood between the crown and the public; whether the arrangement made in 1794 included the parks ; whether they were, like the crown lards included in that arrangement, more under the controul of the house, or, like the other crowa lands, wholly under the discretion of his majesty. Mr. Windham expatiated at considerable lengi!, and with much whimsicality, on the importance of the parks, which he described as the lungs of London ; and drew a moving picture of the disappoiniment that would be felt by a citizen walking from Whitechapel, to get a little freste air in flyde park, and finding the area of it crowded willi houses, vomiting smoke, and preventing vegetation. The parks were the only appendages of royaliy that this capital contained. There were no palaces except that of St. James's, now no longer used as a royal residence; of that edifice he did not think so meanly as others did. It octa tainly had, in addition to the characteristics of spaciousness and antiquity, one principle of likeness to a pao lace, that it was not like any thing else (a laugh). It could not possibly be taken for the residence of a private individual. But being no longer used, it became more necessary to preserve the parks in their full extent. It was not sufficient to say, that the public comfort might still be consulted, though buildings should be to a cera
, tain extent crected. That was done at Paris, in the cona version of the gardens &f Orleans into the Palais Royal; a very beautiful thing, and combining much of public convenience and amusement, but viewed with much disa satisfaction when compared with the gardens for which it was substiinted. On all these considerations, he protested against the clesign recommended by tire surveyor general of crown lands.
Mr. Sheridan coincided entirely in the opinions of his right honourable friend. He had long turned his thoughts to the architectural improvement of Westminster, and liad formed some plans which he intended to propose to be carried into effect. But it was a fixeil pri iciple with him, that not one inch of tlie parks should be taken froin the public. It appeared, that the plan now under consid-ration, though so short a time known to the treasury, was far advanced ; and he coull not conceive why Mr. Fordyce should assuing the right of naming particular
individuals, treating with them, and almost bargaining with them, as if his recomiendation of the plan and persons must necessarily be acceded to. He thought it right not only that there should be a competition, but that there should be obligations to build in a style of proper grandeur. He censured the taste of the hoxes in Hamilfon-place, and blamed the injustice of depriving the inhabitants of Park-lane of the prospect of ihe park. He would prefer building on both sides of Rotten-row, where the gentlemen may lounge up and down, with ladies to look at them, without any injury to any one. seady to do justice to the fairness of Mr. Fordyce's con. duct in his office, which was by no means liable to the charge of favouritism. He acknowledged also the great benefit which the land revenue had derived from Mr.'. Fordyce's plan. He boped his majesty's ministers would give assurance that the plan which had excited so much alarm would not be proceeded on, and that his honourable friend would on that assurance withdraw his motion. He gave notice that he would carly in the next session bring forward his plan for the systematic architectural improve ment of Westminster. He had communicated this plan to his honourable friends when in office; but they were adverse to it from motives of cconomy: though he thought he had given them reason to believe that it would not be so expensive as they at first imagined.
After a few words from the Secretary at War and Mr. Huskisson, the house divided: For the motion
23 Against it
HOUSE OF LORDS.
FRIDAY, JULY 1. The committee of privileges proceeded on the claims to the earldom of Roxburgh. The attorney general was further heard on the part of the crown. after some os., servations from the Lord Chancellor on the impossibility of deciding upon this cause in the course of the present
session, further proceedings were postponed till the first Tuesday in the next session.
ORDERS OF COUNCIL. Lord Holland wished to be informed whether any ens gagement had yet been entered into with Sweden, to give effect on their part to the orders of council. A noble friend of his (lord Grenville) bad formerly given notice of a motion to address his majesty to revoke those orders, but had been induced to withdraw it in consequence of the negotiations that were pending. Although no motion to that effect had, on that account, since been inade, he still retained his former opinion with respect to the impolicy and injustice of those orders. As the case at presents stood, the execution of those orders rested with his majesty's ministers, in whom he could have very little confia dence. They had the power of suspending the execution; of those orders in certain cases, by means of granting lic cences; and he was anxious to know what policy in this respect it was intended to adopt towards Spain. He did not wish to extort from ministers any answer that it might be improper to give; but he trusted that the narrow por licy of selling licences would not be adopted upon tha present occasion, but that a broad and 'liberal policy would mark the conduct of bis majesty's ministers with respect to the Spanish nation; and in this view, it might be expedient to revoke the orders of council, so far as regarded the ports of that country. He could not help again adverting to the expediency of issuing a declaration, stating in an open and manly manner our views with respect to Spain, and our determination to assist them, without iftermixing any selfish objects in the recovery of their independance. He had heard that the Spanish prisoners had been released, and he applauded it as a wise and lis beral act. He thought, however, that it ought to have been accompanied by a declaration of our motives for. doing so, which would have bad a much better effect in, Spain than the mere act itself, or than what the released, prisoners could be enabled to state on their return to Spain. He could not agree in the policy of waiting until a regular government was established in Spain; that must rather be the result of the present struggle for their independance, than precekle it. In the case of the revod lution in England, at the time of the landing of the Vol.lll.-1503.