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selected his own army clothier. The war office, therefore, could have no interest in the question. It was not to be expected, that the treasury would suppose any orders of this nature issued by them upon this subject were final, without conultation with the military authorities. The treasury had recommended a new system, but the board of general officers and the commander in chief were so strongly impressed with what they conceived would be the injury which the army would sustain from the change, that the treasury acquiesced. He did not think the least alvantage wonld accrue to the public from taking the clothing out of the hands of the colonels; although he was satisfied that (provided a fair compensation were made to ibere the colonels woul! be much benefited, and would be very happy, to have the clothing removed from their hands into those of the public. He should move the previous question on the first resolution.
Mr. Whitbread commented with great severity on the extreme absurdity of the dress of our soldiers, and par. ticularly that of the cavalry regiments. The enormous muils on their heads, and the whiskers on their faces, were equally absurd and useless. His honourable friend had plainly proved tha: the soldier had the same great coat put on his back at 16s. od. which might be provided for him at 148. Od. and even that the same identical house had supplied at 16s. 6d. the same coats which they had professed themselv's willing to supply at 14s. 9d. Of all these s'atements the honourable secretary had taken na notice, nor had he chosen to advert to the purchases that Mr. Pierce had made of a slop-seller. An open contract was certainly infinitely preferable to a private contract. He thought that his honourable friend bad completely substantiated his statements, and that a committee ought to be appointed to investigate the subject. From The mode in which the committee of finance were now pro. ceeding, it was not likely, were the chairman to live to the age of Methusalem, that be would ever have to report on this subject.
The Secretary at War explained.
General Stuart defended the dress of some of the regi. ments of cavalry, which were on the principle of the Ger mans, for the outposts of an army. It appeared to him, that it did not signify how the soldiers were dressed, pro: vided they were well disciplined. With respect to the clothing of the army, be thought it would be injurious to the public to take it out of the hands of the colonels.
Mr. Whitbread explained. Mr. Huskisson observed, that the subject was ander discussion, and there were arrangements making upon it. In fact, the contracts for great coats were already open, as desired by the honourable gentleman. He thought it would be most absurd to go into a committee on the other parts of The question, until after the report of the commissioners of military inquiry should be presented to the house. The treasury had nothing more at heart than an open competition on all subjects, but on many it would be attended with considerable danger and inconvenience.
Mr. Fullerconcurred with the hon. gentleman(Mr. Whitbread), in ridiculing the dress of some of our regiments, and especially the sudden changes of regimentals, the expence of which had compelled many officers to quit their regiments. Adverting to the scantiness of clothing in some cases, he declared that he had seen instances in which the dress of the solliers of a regiment had been made so tight, that it had been burst by the sudden contraction occasioned by a shower of rain ; and the poor fellows were left with nothing but their shirts, to cover a part of their bodies which he would not name. (A laugh.) On the whole, however, he believed that the clothing was conducted on a very equitable principle.
After a few words in explanation, Mr. Wardel withdrew his motion.
MR. Palmer's CLAIM. The resolution of the 14th of June, respecting Mr. Palmer, having been read,
The Chancellor of the Exchequer rose to move for a sepa• rate bill on that resolution, instead of allowing it to form a part of the general appropriation bill. He would state his reasons for making this proposition, of which he had given due notice, that it might not appear to be a sudden measure. The ordinary course of the house was, to put all the grants of the year into the appropriation bill; but in adopting the course which he was about to recommend, the house would not act in an unparliamentary or an unprecedented manner. If there ever was a case in which the ordinary course should be deviated from, it was the present, for very strong reasons, which he would distinctly shew. With respect to the precedents on this subject,' he would submit to the house a great variety of them. In the first place he would state a number of cases of grants voted in the committee of supply to private individuals, with conditions annexed to them, some of which had been carried into effect solely by a separate bill, while others had been incorporated into the appropriation act. The first that he would mention was a vote of the house in a committee of supply, on the 10th of April 17:39, of 50001. to Mrs. Johanna Siecle, on the condition that she would with all convenient speed make discovery of her remedy for curing the stone; this rote was carried into effect by a separate bill, and did not appear in the appropriation act. Another vote was on the 28th of January, 1731, of 14,0001. to sir Thomas Blome, as a recompence for the introduca tiou of organized șilk into this country, on the condition that he should produce the models of bis mills. This voic was carried into effect by a separate bill, but did make its appearance in the appropriation act. 0007. had been voted in a committee of su;pily, to the family of Mr. llarrison, for his time-piece, on the condition that his executors should, as specdily as possible, explain its construction. This vote was carried into effect by a separate bill, and is also incorporated in the appropriation act. 3,6007. had bern voted in a committee of supply, to Mr. Phillips, on the condition of his discovering the composia tion of a powder for destroyi ginsects. This vote was carried into cffect by a separate bill, which was lost in the lords; and it did noi appear in the appropriation act. Two or three scars afterwards Mr. Phillips renewed his application, and the house of commons in a committee of :* supply voted him 10 0'. This vo e was carried into citect in a separate bill, which bill was also lost in the house of lords, and it did not appear in the appropriation acı. Thus it appeared that out of these five cases ihe house ado; ted one course in three instances, and another course in the remaining two. The saine variety of proceeding would appear upon an examination of different grants that bad bten voted for public purposes. In some cases these votes had been carried into effért solely by se parate bills; in oifers they had been incorporated in the appropriation act. For the construc. tion and improvement of Westmins'er bridge various sums had been voted at different periods. On the 18th May, 1742, :0.00 1.; on the 24ih, 1754, 25,000/ ... boch thesë cast's ile yotes bad been carried into cilect in separ
rate bills, and had not appeared in the appropriation act: on the 27th of June, 174%, 25,00/1. ; in 1743, 25,0001. ; in 1751, 2,5001. ; all which had been carried into effect by separate bills, but had also been incorporated into the appropriation act. It was evident, therefore, that in these instances, all relating to the sanje object, the house had been in Nuenced solely by convenience. There were various other similar grants.
On the d of March, 1755, 10,0001., for widening the streets of Westminster; and in May, 1758, 10,0001. for repairing Milford haven; which votes were carried into effect by separate bills, although they appeared in the appropriation ac s. In 1759. 10,0001.. for Milford haven; on the 9th of May, 1759, various sums as compensation for the purchase of lads at Poris mouth and Plymouth; on the 230 of March, 1762,501. for paving Westminster ; and on the 14th of April, 1707, 2,001. additional for the sune purpose. All these vites were carried into effect by separate bills, an:I did not appear in the appropriation act. From these various cases it was clear that not only on private but on public grants the house bad always exercises its own option on the mode of proceeding. But there was another class of cascs more nearly resembling that under cinsideration. They were the grants which had been made without any condition annexed. On the 21th of December, 1707, 212). 18s. 6d. bad been voted in a committee of supply as due to captain James Roach, for the arrears of the rent of forfeited estates in Irelanıl, granted to him by act of parliament. This vote was carried into effect by a separate bill, and did not appear in the appropriation act. On the 281h of January, 1752,112,1431. was voleilt the African company as a compensation for the loss of their chartered lands. This vote had been carried into effici by a separate bill, and was not incorporated into the appropriation act. But one of the most material cases to which the house ought to attend wis that of Rye harbour. On the 25th of Februarv, 1715, the committee of supply voted a grant to his maj-siyof 3,0601. out of the sinking fund, to enable the commissioner of Rye harbour to complete the works. The appropriation bill was subsequently brought into the house, but this grant was not icluded in it; and the committee upon it on the 8th of April was adjourned to late hour, for the purpose of allowing the vote of money for Rye harb ur to be made the subject of a separate bill. Another case had occurred in 1779, of a grant upon the petition of Dr. Smith, as a reward for his having attended sick prisoners in London and Westminster. That petition had been with some counter-petitions referred to a committee, which made no report. In the year 1781 the petition was renewed, and on the report of a committee, a bill was brought in and passed the house of commons for granting 12001. to Dr. Smith, which bill was never returned from the lords. It was impossible, after what he had stated, to contend, that it was not perfectly competent to the house to carry its vote into effect, either by a separate bill, or by its inser. tion in the appropriation act. The grant had been voted 'on grounds, not satisfactory to his mind, and though he still retained his former opinion, it was not upon that he proposed the present course. The house had a discretion, and it remained to be considered under what cir. cumstances the house would be disposed to proceed by a separate bill, or by including the grant in the appropriation act. If no other motive would apply, the course tha would be most convenient, would be most desirable. In ordinary cases, where there was not likely to be any difference of opinion elsewhere, it might be proper to insert the grant in the appropriation act. But, if there should be any reason to suppose such a difference of opinion to exist in ibat other quarter, that would be good ground for tako ing the grant out of the appropriation act. The vote pro. ceeded upon an assumption of an agreement between Mr. Pitt and Mr. Palmer, and then assumed tbat nothing had happened to defeat such contract, and that a bill should be brought in to carry the contract into effect. That bouse knew that the other house had the matter under their consideration, by having received a message from it, sequiring a communication of the evidence upon which they had passed the bill for granting the annuity to Mr. Palmer. Having, by se ding up that bill to the other house, given it an opportunity of exercising an unrestrained judgment upon one part of the case, they should not, by inserting this grant in the appropriation bill, reduce the other house to the alternative of either acceding to a grant, of which it disapproved, or of rejecting the appropriation of the supplies of the year. The right ho. nourable gentleman then quoted the authority of Mr. Ilatse), vol. III., page 193, to show, that tacking one measure to another for the purpose of forcing another branch of the logislature to accede to it, was highly irregular, and a