There is the very serious difference of 60 per cent in our opinions. One of us must be under a very great error. I could, if it were not rendered unnecessary by their being the same, as he will hereafter find described by a scientific and practical gentleman, Mr. Martineau, to a committee of the House of Commons, give a series of experiments on sugar and treacle, made many years ago, accompanied, also, with a set of twelve distillations (in a still of a suitable size which I procured to be made for the purpose) of small portions of beer formed from as many different original specific gravities in the worts; which experiment I then entered on with the view to ascertain the fact of the accordance, or not, of the final proportion of proof spirit with the original gravity, as shewn by the hydrometer; due reference being had to all the circumstances. The results of each, and of all of these examinations, did so remarkably correspond with the several circumstances as to afford the most convincing testimony to my mind that every hydrometer, now in use, is truly and correctly, a measure of sweets, although that appellation is given to one, only, among the several sorts now constructed.

But I must not expect that my own experiments, and consequent decision will be deemed of sufficient authority to be conclusive with others. I am happy, therefore, in the op portunity to adduce far superior proof, premising, that the average value of each 8 bushels of malt is known as annually, to every brewer who has employed an hydrometer for a sufficient time to understand its uses. I say, annually, because the produce of saccharine matter varies with the favou ableness of the harvest and season to the barly; as well as very materially according to the method of malting it. But a quarter of malt, weighing from 300lbs. to 350lbs., usually yields from 75 to 80.bs. of sacchaine matter. A like quantity and no more is afforded by 185lbs. to gulbs. of sugar, or by 224 to 240lbs. of treacle. The produce of the last two is found merely by a solution of them in waters; and finally, the separate value of all the three is found by the production of spirit, uniformly correpanding with the gravities of their extracts, or solutions. The evidence I have alluded to is taken from a parliamentary "Report of the Sugar Distillery Committee," ordered by the house to be printed 17th February, 1807, The object being to 'nquire how far reef weight be afforded to the West India proprietois by the use of sugar in the breweries and distilleries, Ge committee after having examined (fica the 2d to the 13th Jan.

1807) the persons most competent to give them information, say in page 4:-" It appears to the committee that taking the price of the quarter of malt, capable of producing 80 lbs. of saccharine matter at 82s. the quantity of sugar necessary to produce an equal proportion of saccha"rine matter must be 1 cwt. 3 qrs. 1 lb. (197 lbs.) which at 58s. * the cut. would amount to 101s. 6d. in price, making a "difference in favour of the malt of 19s. 64. in that given quantity. It is stated, besides, in evidence, that the beer produced from sugar, even if the prices "would admit of it, is not equal in any degree to that produced from its equi"valent quantity of malt, and couse

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quently that the brewer would not use sugar in their manufactory, unless they "were prohibited by law from using grain. -In page 16, Mr Jackson commissioner of excise, examined by the committee, says, "I recollect that about the year 1800 or 1801, when sugar was by law permitted to be used in the brewery, on account of the scarcity of grain at that "time, very little sugar was used. One or two brewers in London, two at Man"chester, and some at Liverpool, wers

have made such experiments as to con"vince my own mind, completely." And being desired to state the cpinion he had formed in consequence, said: “I have a very "short statement shewing the compan "tive value of malt with sugar, and of mo"lasses with malt." Mr. Martineau then | delivered in the following paper to the committee, which was read." December 14,

1709, experiments on a sample of browa "Muscovado sugar at 53s. 3d. per cwt., and "the same on a sample of molasses at 40s. per cwt. One pound of the above sugar

was dissolved in a gallon of water, and "then boiled half an hour, it lost by evapo tation rather more than a quart, wied quantity being restored with cold was, and reduced to the heat of 60 degrees, it

* My estimate of the price of sugar was 61s, and any quantity 150 lbs. the cost of which would be 100s. gd. I believe it is now dearer than 61s.

for the last half-year of the said reversionary term and whereas his said present majesty, by other letters patent bearing date the 7th Aug. 1780, did demise, grant, and to farm let, unto the Rev. R. Palmer, D.D. and Thomas Hurst, gent., all that manor of Walton Leigh in Surry, with all and singular its rights, members, and appurtenances, and all those rents of the free tenants there, by a particular thereof amounting yearly to £3. O. 74d.; and all those rents of the tenants by copy of court roll, and at the will of the lord there, by a particular thereof amounting yearly to 10.0s. 9d.; and all those messuages, lands, and tenements, in the hands of the said tenants by copy of court roll, and at will under the yearly rents aforesaid, and all that annual or fee farm rent of 3s. a year, issuing out of the lands and tenements theretofore granted to E. Porter; and all that seite of the manor of Walton Leigh and all demesne lands there with their and every of their appurtenances, by a particular thereof mentioned to be of the yearly rent or value of £10. 18s.; and all that increased rent there, by a particular thereof, amounting yearly to 9s. 3d.; and all that common fine there, by a particular thereof amounting yearly to 2s.; and all those perquisites of courts there, one year with another, by a particular thereof valued and estimated at £5. 11s. 11d. a year; which said manor of Walton Leigh and other the premises last above-mentioned, by a particular thereof were mentioned to be parcel of the possessions theretofore purchased of Giles Leigh, esq., and annexed to the honour of Hampton Court, and all and singular messuages, mills, houses, edifices, structures, barus, stables, dovehouses, orchards, gardens, lands, tenements, meadows, feedings, pastures, commons, common of pasture, demesne land, glebe lands, Wastes, furzes, heaths, moors, marshes, advantages, profits, waters, water-courses, fisheries, fishings, suits, sokes, mulets, warrens, rents, reversions, and services, rent charges, rents seck, and rents and services, as well of the free as customary tenauts, tepants works, farms, fee farms, annuities, reliefs, heriots, fines, amercia ments, courts leet, views of frankpledge of court and leet, and leets perquisites and profits, and all things which to courts leet and view of frankpledge belong or apper. tain, chattels, waifs, estrays, goods and chattels of felons and fugitives, felons of themselves and put in exigent, bondmen, natives and villains, with their sequels, estovers, aud common of estovers, fairs, markets, tolls, exemption from paying toll,

customs, rights, jurisdictions, liberties, franchises, privileges, profits, commodities, advantages, emoluments, and hereditaments whatsoever, of whatsoever nature, kind, or specie the same were or by whatsoever names soever they were known, understood, called, or were theretofore known, situate, lying, and being, coming or arising or growing within the manor therein-before mentioned, or within the village, town fields, or places or parish of Walton Leigh and Walton-upon-Thames in the said county of elsewhere, whatsoever to the said manor, messuages, lands, tenements, &c. in anywise belonging or appertaining, happening or appending, or as part, parcel, or member of the same manor, messuages, lands, tenements, and other the said premises or any of them, had, taken, accepted, occupied, used, or reputed, and also the reversion or reversions, remainder or remainders whatsoever of the said manor and the said lands, &c. depending, happening, or in expectancy, from, in, or upon any demise or grant, demises or grants, for term or terms of life, lives, or years, or otherwise of the same premises or any parcel thereof, of record or not of record; and also all and singular rents and yearly profits whatsoever reserved upon every demise or grant of the same premises or any parcel thereof (excepting nevertheless and always reserving to his majesty, his heirs and successors, all lands, tenements, and hereditaments, then or theretofore being or reputed to be parcel of the said manor of Walton Leigh which were inclosed in Oatlands Park, or in any other of his majesty's parks, or reserved for the depasturing of the fallow deer and wild beasts, and also all other lands, &c. in Walton Leigh aforesaid or within the precinct of the said manor of Walton Leigh, which were theretofore purchased by any of his said present majesty's progenitors or ancestors, kings or queens of England, or any other person or persons whatsoever, besides the said Giles Leigh only; and also excepting and always reserving all great trees, woods, underwoods, knights fees, wards, marriages, mines, and quarries of the said premises, and all timber trees, and fair saplings apt and fit for timber, and sufficient staddles growing in and upon the said premises; and also all and singular, advowsons, free donations, dispositions, and right of patronage of all and singular rectories, vicarages, chapels, and other ecclesiastical benefices whatsoever to the same premises or any parcel of the same belonging, appertaining, happening, or appending); and

also all those lands and tenements in Walton aforesaid, therein-after particularly mentioned and expressed, that is to say, one close called Dodd Croft, containing by estimation 6 acres inclosed together, &c.; and one close lying near Hill Croft in Walton aforesaid called Pollard,containing by esti mation 3 acres, and one close called Russels, containing by estimation 4 acres ; and one close called Barn Close theretofore adjoining to a certain tenement then demolished and purchased of the said Tho. Driver; and all those lands in the field called Hill Croft in Walton aforesaid, containing by estimation 84 acres of arable land; and all that close of wood called Little Lee, lying in the common field in Walton aforesaid ; and all those arable lands in the field called Winkmeershill, containing by estimation. 6 acres, &c.; and also one parcel of land in Walton aforesaid, called an Eyte, containing by estimation half an acre of meadow, &c. And whereas his said present majesty, by other letters patent bearing date the 7th March, 1770, for the considerations therein mentioned, did demise, grant, and to farm let, unto Sarah Hodges and Susannah Hodges, spinsters, all that messuage, tenement, or farm house, called or known by the name of Brooklands, in the county of Surry, and all barns, stables, outhouses, &c. to the said messuage, &c. belonging, containing by admeasurement 3 acres, rood. and 12 perches or thereabouts; and also those 11 several closes or parcels of arable, meadow, and pasture land situate together and lying round the said messuage, containing in the whole by admeasurement 169 acres, 1 rood, and 35 perches; and also all those two several closes or parcels of meadow situate together between the river Waye on the west and certain lands therein-after mentioned on the east, containing together 25 acres, 2roods, and 9 perches, and also all those two several closes or parcels of arable land situate together between Walton common on the east, and the lands therein-after mentioned on the north and west, containing together 20 acres and 17 perches or thereabouts; all which said several closes or parcels of land and premises, containing in the whole 218 acres, 1 rood, and 33 perches, belonged to and were to be held with the said messuage, &c. and also all that new built messuage or tenement called the Eight Acres, adjoining to the lands first therein above described, &c. and all those 11 several closes or parcels of land situate together and lying round the said last mentioned messuage, and containing 59 acres, and 27 perches, all which said preises are situate together within the parish

of Weybridge, and were then in the tenure or occupation of George Payne, esq. together with all ways, passages, waters, rivers, streams, fisheries, &c. to hold the said messuage, &c. first therein above men tioned to be demised and granted with the several parcels of land thereto belonging, &c. unto the said Sarah Hodges and Susannah Hodges, their executors, &c. for a reversionary term of 12 years, to commence from the 5th January, 1788, and to hold the said new built messuage with the appur tenances and the several parcels of land thereto belonging containing 59 acres and 27 perches with the appurtenances unto the said Sarah Hodges and Susannah Hodges, their executors, &c. for a reversionary term of 31 years and the half of another year to commence and be computed from the said 5th January, 1788, at the yearly rent of five pounds eight shillings and sixpence for the first thirty-one years of the said last mentioned reversionary term, and at the rent of two pounds fourteen shillings and threepence, &c. And whereas his said present ma jesty, by other letters patent bearing date the 3d May, 1785, for the considerations therein mentioned, did demise, grant, and to farm let, unto the right hon. George earl of Tyrconnel and John Johnston, esq. all and sin gular the said messuages, lands, &c. comprised in and demised by the said letters patent of the 7th March, 1770, with the and every of their appurtenances (except as in the said letters patent excepted), to hold the said messuage, &c. with the said several closes or parcels of land thereto belonging, and above-mentioned 218 acres, I rood, and 33 perches with their appurtenances (except as before excepted), unto the said George earl of Tyrconnel and John Johnston, their executors, &c. from the 5th July, 1500 (at which time the term then in being would expire), for a reversionary term of 15 years, at the yearly rent of £16. 10s. 24. and to hold the said new built message lastly therein described with the said several closes or parcels of land and premises thereto belonging and above-mentioned to con tain 59 acres and 27 perches with the ap purtenances (except as before excepted), unto the said George earl of Tyrconnel and John Johnston, their executors, &c. from 5th July, 1819 (at which time the term then in being would expire,) for a rever sionary term of 15 years, at the yearly rent of £9. 14s. Sd. And whereas his said present majesty, by other letters patent bear ing date the 8th April, 1785, for the conside rations therein mentioned did denise, grant, and to farm let, unto Nicholas Elcock, all