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plunder ; and, they take special care not to a change in the minds of this deceived and attack the object of their common pursuit. torpid nation.

We were met for 'he purpose of con- You tell me, Sir, that Mr. Garnier sidering, whether it was proper to petition « loaths and abhors the very name and the king for inquiry into the cause of a great nature of war;" and this, “ from his military failure. You called me to order, general feelings of humanity, and from bio because I was making a statement of the having lost four sons in the service of his expence of supporting the Duke of York,

country by the war; and that most bap. of whose failures and of whose memorable

pily would be restore the money he has Convention at the Helder, I had just been gained by the patent, if the blood lie has speaking, as of the example, which had led e lost coald be restored to him." Now, Sir, to all our subsequent disgraceful capitulations this is very full of fine sentiment, and might and conventions. And, if this was not do very well in a modern romance But, being in order, what could be so ? Was I how far will it stand the test of reason? not, when I was speaking of the services of Why did he place four sons in the army, or a person, to speak also of the compensation, navy, if he loathed and abhorred the very which he received for those services? Why name and nature of war? He, surely, io. was this, above all other matter, to be tended they should, sometime or other, 50 avoided? Was it because you did not wish forth to fight? Or, if he made them sol. the people to know how their money was diers, or sailors, upon the specula:ion of expended ? Were you afraid, Sir, that they continual peace, I see, in his conduct, bowould begin to perceive, that the sacritices thing better than the proof of a desire to they were making were not for the defence obtain for them a livelihood out of the pubof their country? I can see no other reason ; lic burthens without any corresponding serbut, if another such opportunity should vices. This is a dilemma, Sir, from which, occur, the cry of order shall not prevent me I am of opinion, you will find it very difficult from proceeding to discharge what I deem to extricate Mr. Garnier. It is in vain, that my bounden duty.

you apply a general argument in support With respect to Mr. Garnier and his

a statement from personal knowledge ; it is patent and emoluments, I should be fully in vain, that you tell me, that" his liberal justified in refusing to admit into my Regis- education,

generous habits, and pas tet, any answer to what I thought proper to “ rental feelings, would prevent him from say at a public meeting of the county. The " bartering affections for interests ; * to ! time and place for answering me was when shall be satisfied with nothing but the and where the speech' was made. I am clusions, drawn from facts. Look, Sir, ready, however, to admit any thing respects into the list of places and pensions ; ing this matter, until the discussion be fairly there you will find proofs of greediness a':] closed, because it is a matter of deep and meanness too hateful to be described, in per general interest ; but, I must, before I sons, who have had, what you are pleased, in proceed further, beg you to observe, that it the common phrase of the day, to call ? is upon this account that I admit your letter, “ liberal education." Indeed, it would and not from any persuasion, that I am seem, that, in many instances, such edeca. botind to give an opponent at Winchester an tion, instead of having produced dignified opportunity of reviving the debate in my notions; instead of having given rise to inRegister, which is intended for general cir- dependence of mind aud of conduct, is look: culation ; for, otherwise, every one who ed upon as a sufficient plea for sadelling the had a dispute with me, no matter of what possessor as a sort of state panper upon

the kind, might claim the insertion of his let- public. This education, call it what you ters, and the public, as far as they read my will, has a degrading effect. I have never publication, would be entertained with, at yet seen it productive of any ibing great of best, the mere politics of Hampshire. praiseworthy. I see it sending forth a train

Mr. Garnier's is a case of great and general of shameless drones and peculators ; and, importance. I am happy, that he has, therefore, I despise it. Of Mr. Garnier's through you, challenged this sort of discus- generositý we shall, presently, see some insion; not, because I am convinced, that lie stances nút to be controrerted; bnt, give will have cause to repent of having yielded leave to make a general observation; to the suggestions of zealous, though inju. that is, that, according to the old marin, dicious, friendship; but, because I regard we should be just before we are generers. his patent, and ibe concern growiug out of The Apostle, you well know, Sir, bids us is, as being amongst those flagrant abuses, give to ilimse who need, a precept which he the exposure of which must, in time, work had copied from his Master; but, be jo



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something. too, about the manner of getting prices. All that you have alledged about what we give; and he tells us, to be sure to lon credit, the Apothecaries Company's get it by our labour; to earn it; to be able prices to the Navy, and so forth, was alleged to call it our own, in conscience as well as before the commissioners; and, in this exin law, before we attempt to give it away:

tract from their Report, you will find it all Whether Mr. Garnier's generosity will stand complejoly refuted. Before we proilis test we are now proceeding to inquire. state the course we bave followed

The daie and the duration of Mr. Garnier's “ in endeavouring to get at a correct patent you icre accurately stated. It has judgment of ihe prices allowed in been in the liands of bis farlier and himself

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may be proper to norice, for serenty-four years; during that time they " that the form of the certificate, at prehave hadi, in virtue of their parent, a mono- " sent signed by the physician and surpoly of the supply of the army withi inedi- geon general, differs from that which cines and surgical instruments. Mr., Garnier was in use when Sir Clifton Wintringham himself has never, in any instance, perform- was physician general to the army. His ed any part of the duty; and yet, besides “ certificate states, “ that the medicines the immense profits derived from the mono- and materials, as recited in the invoices, poly, he, who never has done an hour's du- ““ bad, agrocable to their respective dates, ly, who has been proved upon oath never to "“ heen carefully viewed and examined have given a moment's attendance, in any “" by bim, and that tbey were found to way wbatever in the public service, has been "“ be very good; and further, that he in the receipt, and is pow in the receipt, of " believes the prices, as far as bis inquithe pay of len shillings a day, as being upon “ ries could ascertain, were reasonable, the staff of the army, though he “ loaths as being rated at the current price " and abhors the very name and nature of “ which they bore at the time they were “ war!” Sir, fine sentiments will not si- supplied by the apothecary geueral." lence this fact, Talk to me not of the na- “ From this form of certificate we infer, tural effect of a lilierul education;" talk “ that the very articles named in the invoices to me not of Mr. Garuier's generosity; " bud been examined by the physician gefor, if ever there was a proof of consum- “ neral on the dates of their being placed mate muanness, it is that which we here have " in the packages, and that the current before us, Good God! I ook at the estates O fate of price on the days of the supply in and about Wickham; look at the endless " was that which was certified by him. church preferment of his sops; look at his The present form of the certificate states, splendid mansion and equipage, and his die “ that the physican general and surgeon gemerous train of menials. Look at all this ; “ neral “ huve, from time to time, careconsider that it has all come from the public fully examined the different articles borthens and without one day's service on "“ contained in the account, and that the part of he possessor; consider that this they have uniformly found ihem of the possessor still receives, in pay from that pus. "" best quality." Whatever in ference lic, the sum of ten shillings a day, as an offi. may be drawii from the words used in cer upon the staff of the armr, in which

are, we learn from Mr Clarke, office he has never acted for one hour; and " that there is no security but the inte. then insult 11s, who are the puyers of this grily of the parties employed;" thac man; then insult us again, I say, with an the articles which have been inspected argument, in favour of his disinterestedness, are the articles which had been issued founded on his lilieral education" and his " from the elaboratory. The present generous habits !"

certificate furiber states, that “ hasing should pow enter upon a refuiation of ""examirezł the prices chirged, and !"} the statement, which you bave made with ing taken into consideration the direcrespect to the profies of Mr. Garnier. But, " tions receivert from the treasury, that Sir, you are not to learn, that, çarly in the they were to pay attention to the depresent year, a Report, rative to his depart- lay in the payment, they are of opis ment, was laid before parliament by the

" " nion, that the apo hecary general's Conimissioners of Military Joguiry, wlrich charges to the public are fair and reaReport, as far as it relates to be said profits, sonable." This part of the present I shall, before I proceed further with my certificate does not, like the former cerria own observacions, quote, word for word. ficate, afford a ground for il terring, obat The Comnissioners first observe, that there " the prices which are cerrified are at the lipi tfficient check to Mr. Garnier's Ac- current rate of the days of supply; but counts, einer as to quantity, quality, or " the physician general $#) ,


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" " checking the apothecary general's bill for which was communicated to us

charges, he always takes into consi- by Mr. Calvert Clarke. It will be seen, “ deration the varia:ion in the prices of on an inspection of the two columns in

so the medicines," Ou an inspection, which the different rates of charge of " however, of the tuo accounts which we the apothecary general and of liessrs. " hre procured froni che treasury, one of " Kenpson and Co. are given, that the “ which amounts to about forty-four thou- " lares of the first are almost in every “sind five bundred pounds, and the other “ insance higher than those of Messts.

lipwards of seventy-tive thousand Kompson, and, on the aniount of the pounds, we cannot tind, except in one or whole, are 40 per-cent, higher than " iwo instances, that there is any

variation theirs : yet Mr. Kempson says, that “ in the prices charged in each year ; nol. his•prices would have afforded him " wiili-tanding the supply is extended sonviring kerudsome in the way of pro

through the whole of the year; wid fi!; and that the price of bark,

We have understood thar, in one material particularly, is taken at a high valu. " article at Lase, that of bark, there was ation.The blank bills submited

a very great variation in its price during to Messrs. Godfrey and Cooke, and 10 one of the yeus. - We have remarked

“ Messrs. Corbyn and Co., also chemin's " too, on an imestigation of those bills, " and druggists in London, were copi d " that le prices charged by the apothecary " fion invoices of much larger quantities general home been unifornly adinilteil; "than that subinitted to Mr. Kempol, " for He can find po alteration or deduction “ and were selected from the apothecary in

one of the charges. Yet this al- “ general's biils for 1804 and 1505. Va dowrce for the delay in paynent is not an juspeciica of the conparative stai?" adued by thie physicion and surgeon ge- ment in the Appendix, of the rates ti " neral at the end of the account as a per. " the charge of the apoi becary general,

ctn'age for a cera'n specified period on “ and of the gevtlemen before named, at is the sun total of it, but forms part of appears that there is often a difference is

l)charges on some or all of the itenis; “ the prices of these gentlemen as betvero " and must be considere:), therefore, as " themselves, and that, in some instaras,

being left to the discretion of the cpu!ne- “ their prices exceed those of the cory general.--It is obvious bow ditti

cary general; but that, on the water "i culi it must be to check such charge, by “his prices en ceed those of Alessis. Golfrei

comparing them with the charges made ana Cooke ly 41 por-cent, and of Messin

by others in the trade. But, conceiving Corbyn and Co. ly 18 per-cent in the “ that the most satisfactory mode of doing

year 1804 ; and in 1805 they exceed the “ it would be to compare the total amount first ly 37, and the second ly 19 per-cent.

charged by the apothecary general for "Some explanation, however, is peces. certain invoices of eclicines furnibed

sary in his place : it is well known that to the army, with the total amount " the prites which inerchants and tradesmen " which others would bave charged for charge for the articles they furnish are,

the same under similar circumstances, " in a great measure, regulated by tlie

we subaried particular invoices of me- quantity furnished, by the credit which " dicines, furnished by the apothecary ge " is given, and by the risk of payment;

neral in the years 1304 and 1805, but and, without a consideration of these “ without his prices aitised, to the con- “circumstances, no coinparison can be “ sideration of two or three eminent drug- justly made.

In the present case, we gises and chenists, and we desired them “ learn from Mr. Couke, the partner of

to affix the prices which the best articles “ Mr. Godfrey, that his prices is of the kinu bore in those years. And, " on the principle of his customer being a " for a furure comparison), we procured “ merchant buying largely, and at 5 " from the ordnance and transport bouds r months credit:

was the credit," he " the bilis for me icines supplied for their says, to be extended to 12 monks 10

use during the years 1901 and 1805 ; the " addition (or 18 months altogether, he “ first of these Dosris being suppiied by " would have added about 10 qer-ipat. a drugit, and the other by the apothe- to his prices."

In comparing, thee " curies company

The blank invoice "forc, Mesers Godfrey and Cooke's prices " which we sintonisted in Messrs. Kempisen “ with the apothecary general's, £ 10 per:

and Co. droggisis in London, was, for cent. ought to be added to the fornier i

a regimental ches: of medicines finished " for the apothecary general's bills were " by i..apothecary general in 1905, the sciduas paid sooner hun eighteen mooila,

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" and sometimes not until two years after “ of the apothecaries company; but that " the supply was made. With respect to

they exceed those of Blesses. Bush and " Messrs. Corbyo and Co's prices, it is to Howard niarly sixty per cent. It must " be understood that, in fixing them, they not be overlooked, however, that the " have proceeded on the principle of the " bills of the apothecaries company are de. « articles being furnished to apothecaries, livered in quarterly to the transport bard, " to whom they give twelve months credit: “ and, after having been examined, are "s but they look on the risk, it seeins, in paid by 90 days bills, but without interest. “this case, to be considerable, and they

" Such a difference in the time of payment “have taken it accordingly into their valui. may sufficiently account, perhaps, or “ation. They have also calculated their " the apothecary general's exces, of charge "prices on the small quantities of me- “ beyond the apotliecaries company

The “ dicines usually furnished to apothecaries ; or ordnance medicine bills are also made out “ but if such large quantities were furnish- quarterly, and, after being certified by " ed, as were described to be furnished in the surgeon general belonging to that de

a year by the apothecary general, Mr. Mes. partment, are sent to the surveyor gene

ser (of Messrs. Corbyn's house) thought “ ral'- office, and are discharged in course. “ that Messrs. Corbyn's prices should be “ In this case 100, therefore, an adusion " reduced 10 per cent. on drugs, and 20 ought to be made to the prices, in orcier

per cent. on cheinical preparations; and, to make a correct comparison between were the payment delayed for eighteen

or them and those of the apothecary gene“ mouths, or two years, Mr. Messer says, “ ral; but this addition must be much less

taking into consideration the quantity of " than sixty per cent.-- The result of this “ the supply, with certainty of payment, course of inquiry would shew, if the " that he still thinks the prices which his “ prices of the apothecaries company are to “ house had affixed to the bills ought to sl- “ be she criterion by which to examine the

tisfy any person. On the whole, there- apothecary general's bills, that the prices

fore, we may consider that the prices of " which have been allowed him are not sery "Messrs. Godfrey and Cooke, and of improper. But ought these prices alone “Messrs. Corbyn and Co. uuderile circum- to have guided those whose duty it has

cumstances of a wholesale supply, and 1“ been to examine his accounts ?-Had the " 18 months credit, without risk. would prices of the most eininent of the trade "not have materially differed from each • been also resoried to, for the purpose of

other. But these are the circumstances checking the account, it would have ap“under which the apothecary general has peared ihat, even taking into considera" furnished medicines, &c. to the army. « tion the delay of payment, the prices of " and these prices are about one fifth higher “ the apothecary general have exceeded, " than those which we have last considered. " BY ONE-FIFTH AT LEAST, what "-We observe, on an inspection of the " should have been allo:red bin.- We have “ medicine bills of the ordımance and trans- already noticed that the subject of the

port boards, for the years 1804 and 1805, supply of surgical instruments for the " that the prices of some of the more value use of the army, by the apothecary gene. "able articles, unlike what we hid observ. " ral, had heretofore been under the con"ed in the apothecary general's bi is, vary

os sideration of the lords of the treasury, frequently in the course of the same year. " and that their lordships were pleased to " This circumstance, at the same time that approve of his continuing to supply these "It proved the inefficiency of the check on " articles.-In Mr. Garnier's representation "his prices, made it difficult for us to con- to their lordships, afier stating the

pare them with those charges to the two grounds on which he claimed the right, " boards. We have extracted the prices, “ nnder his parent, to supply surgical in. " however, of some of the articles most " struments (which we have before alluded

commonly in use, from his bill for the " to), he insisis further, “that he has an "month of July, in the! 805, and the equal right to be paid for them in the

prices for the same kind of articles charg same manner as his predecessors base "ed to the ordnance board by Messrs. Bush " been paid, that is, by charging the 11)" and Howard, and !o the transport board struments to government at a fair pro

by the apothecaries company in the same fit, as between tradesman and conyear and month, and we have arranged slimer, and not by a nett commission them in separate columns. This arrange- on the first cost of the commodity," ment shews, thet the prices of the apo- “ wbich it appears, it bal been propose to thecary general do not much exceed those “allow him, to the extent of 10 per cent.

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« Mr. Garnier added," that such a plaa, “ Evans has charged sixteen pounds, sixteen

if adopted, would have been attended " shillings for the first, and nine pounds “ with considerable loss to government; nine shillings for the second, including in “ for that then the instruments must lave both the price of the cases, These are

been bought on the same credit as go- “ Mr. Evans's prices, however, when these yernment look of bim, and ibat Savig- articles were sold on the usual credit;

ny and Evans were the cnly two per- “ and therefore it may be remarked, that

sons in the trade competent to give they can be no tit criterion by which to iii

credit ; and he alledges that these per- “ judge of the apothecary general's prices, " " sons' charge to him on an annual credit, íor That he was seldom paid under eighteen

would have exceeded, by 10 per cent. months, and sometimes not until two "what Mr. Garnier charged, which, ad- years after the supply. To meet this ob" " ded to the proposed commission, would jection, Mr. Evaps was asked, what

“ bave made a real loss to governinent of " would have been his prices under such a “ ' 20 per cent." Mr. Garnier subjoined “ circumstance? But adding to the question

a statement of what he then (1797) at the same time (what was the fact in *** charged for each set of instruments cal- respect of the apothecary general), that “ led capitals, and what would have been the supply of surgical instruments in each " the charge if the plan bad been adopted. year bad amounted, on an average, to “ In this he states, that his charge was sever thousand pounds, with no ultimate « £17 17s per set ; but that, if bought on

" risk of payınent.

His answer sbews, “ an annual credit, the charge to him would " that under all these circumstances, he be £199s to which adding 10 per cent. would not only not have added to the prices

,commission, the whole price would be before named by bim, but that he would « £21 &s, or a loss to government of " have deducted from the total amount “23 ils, (i, e.) 20 per cent.--It is mani. certainly not less than 5 per-cent." “ fest, on a view of this statement, that it “ This, therefore, ought to have been the “ cannot be correct; for it assumes the " principle on which tbe apothecary general

point in question, and proceeds on the 6 should have made his coarges; for it is

supposition that ibe instruments could not " the rule of charging between the trades, “ have been procured by Mír. Garnier at man and the consumer, for which he pla “ less than 10 per cent. above the price “ tends. His charge, however, for which, eren under the circumstance of sei of capitals, is about 19 per-cent, abon “ the long delay in payment, was charged Mr. Evans's, and 40 per-cent. alove dr.

by him to government. Tvat vihich we Evans's charg» for a set of poriatles: and are about to state will shew that he was " these prices bave been allowed (as it aliogether mistaken in his reprezentation " should seem without inquiry) by those

on this poipt. For we have examined “ whose duty it was to check the charge.* Mr. Evaos, one of the tradesmen to wooo “ We have learned another fact from Mr. " Mr. Garnier alludes, on the subject. We • Evans deserving of attention, also, ou a “ selecied Mr. Evans, becanse it appeared " viw of the prices which have been cbar- that his house bas furnished surgica in- ged, and allowed, in the apothecary ge. “ struments to the navy hospitals, under neral's bills. The screw tourniquets, " the orders of the transport board, for a " for which the apothecary gener al always is considerable number of years.

We have charges tuelve shillings and sixpence each, * confined our inquiries relative iu Mr. are sold singly by Mr. Evans ai ten shil. « Evans's prices to the period subsequent to lings and sixpence, and uvder a sort of “ 1802, because, by a prior regulation, the contract with the transport board, are 6" instruments which are to constituie wbat supplied by biro to the navy at eight skil.

are called full sets of capitals, and port- Jings each; being an addition to Mr. • able sets of capitals, are particularly eau

Evans's prices of above 50 percent

. by merated; and therefore, when Mr. Evans

the apothecary general, as a compensation " speaks of these different collections, it is "fis an extension of credit of 15 or 18 " evident that he speaks of tiie same as are months.---The evidence which we bare

charged in the apothecary general's bills shus produced shews, we think, a very « by those names. lo these bills for the - blameable inattention in checkiog the apo

years 1804 and 1805, we find that the • thecary general's charges in respect of charge. for full sețs is always nineteen surgical instruments; for the slightest,10indunds nineteen shillings each, and thir. “ quiries, would have enabled those to ihren Spounds five shillings for each set of whose consideration the prices were rePortables. During this period, Mr. terred, to have ascertained that the oltar.


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