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the King's Answer to the city of London, I land, al:hough it was impossible for him to beg to be understood as alluding solely 10 execute iis duties. Whence this extraordiministers -- not at all meaning to implicati pary partiality? Why, because the Wcieshis Majesty This I premise, in order to ley tamily have no less than twelve votes in guard against mistake or misconstructiou. the House of Commons. (Applauses. ) - What In my opinion, it is quite evident, that his is the next step of ministerial partialiiy toVijesty's ministers are fully determined to wards this commander ? No blame was in screen Sir Arthur Wellesley. The proofs of poied to lii:.. No idea of trying him was even This determination are manifest. In the insinuated. He was not, in fact, recalled first place, when the news arrived of the from the army, bul allowed to come home disgraceful Convention, ministers withhelt upon leave of absence.- And here let me rethe communication as long as possible, and m.rk, that although one of the pleas or apolowhen at last obliged to make the commu- gies for concluding this infamous Convention nication to the abused people of this coun- was, that it would enable our army 10 march try, in what manner did they do it? That more expeditiously to the aid of the part which it was most material to know; Spaniards; yet, when they were so which, in fact, formed the basis of the abbal, their commander, Wellesley, came whole; namely, the Armistice which was bome, and left the army 10 go by itselt. He signed by Sir Arthur Wellesley, was pub- Ce bouse before the other commanders, lished in the French language. My neigli- in order to tell the first story--in order to bours do not understand French. God for- bave an undue advantage over bis colleagues. bid that they ever should! (Applauses ;) --Then, what is done upon bis arrival? They do not understand the meaning of the He is introduced at the king's levee; and on termisD:10 d' Abrantes," nor “ Chevalier du the very day, too, that the corporation of Bain." Why did ininisters give this part London present their Address, Look at the the communication in French, while the contrast between the treatment experienced remainder was given in English? The rea- by that corporation, and the reception of son is obvious. And ia this act alone I see Sir Arthur Wellesley! Although there proot enough of their determination to screen were divers great persons at that levee; i that man. Tipplauses.) Now, as to the though there was a bishop and a judge object of their preference. Sir Arthur Wel- ! among the circle, Sir Arthur Wellesley was lesley, it is well known, is allied to thie fint person presented to his majesty : powerful family, which has risen to predlo. and most graciously was he received ! But minunce, not by great or useful talents of turther sull. After being this cordially any description, not by eminent or laudable previel by his majesty, Sir Arthur is sent to achievements, but by beating the poor In- resume iis oifice in Ireland, tur which, as dians, just as a dog would hunt a tick of I bare ziedy observed, he has been all sheep. Why, Gentlenien), Sir Arthur Wei- along in the receipt of 20,500 a year, lesley has nó claim to the inerit of general- Dire's this imply any inclination to subject ship for his boasted victories in India; for Sir archer Wellesley to censure, or to bring one thousand English soldiers would beat him in trial ? Quite the contrary. And ten thousand Indians, with as much ease as my firm belief is, that in order to screen tivo of your dogs would drive a flock of this commander, ministers will use tbeir sheep out of a pinfold. (Laughter and ap- endeavours to screen his colleagues ; from a planting) I wish, Gentlemen, ihat this con- jast apprehension, that if these colleagties mander was here to hear me; but, although are bronght to trial, they would probably he b: not present, there can be no doubt impach Wellesley.

For these reasons, thu in a country wliere ihe minister has the ministers may well be suspected, of a dedistribution of seventy millions a year of the termination to prevent any thing like effecpublic money, there is scarcely a foot of it tual inquiry. (Loud applauses ) --But, G in which their favourite will not find a tlemen, you cannot bely being surprised, friend.

Ler any such friend now answer that ministers should have thought it proper me, and co.rect me if I am wrong, in stating to employ Sir Arthur Wellesley at all, upan the salaries a: The services of Sir Arthur this occasion, when they had such a nomWellesley. Before he lett this country, that ber of generals, from among whom they oficer enjoyed a salary of L6500 as chief could select a commander. What was the secretary of state in Ireland, besitles bis pay necessity, then, for sending out iliat officer as colonel of a regiment. Ministers take Why, Gentlemen, we have it this moment, hin front but office and send him abrord as a Stunt consisting of nu le-s than 291. gea general; still leaving him in possession of

nerals, What a boast! (.d.laugh, Ile. the emolaments of his secretaryship in Ire

French bave not halt so many. Among




t be officers we have six field marial, !

tion of persons in the country, so destitute Th:re were, I say. 291 generals, of whom of humanity, who can feel any wish for the Sir Arthur Wellesley was one; and, out of prolongation of war. They f.en ack me, all these officers, a man could not be chosen why do any men wisla a cuntinuation of the to send to Portugal, without withdrawing Above all, say they, the government from Ireland its chief-secretary, upon whom of the couniry cannot be desirous for its du. so much of the government of that part of ration. But, I could now, Gentlemen, the United Kingdom rests Well, Genie- begin to read a list which woulu occup: two men, Sir Arthur goes out as a major gene• hours, of persons whose great intere-i consal, and, after being deeply implicated in a sists in the duration of war, at all events, transaction that "

has disappointed tha and under all circumstances and bazards. ] hopes and expectations of the country,"

shall mention ore case to you There is he comes back, is cordially greeted by his Mr. Garnier, ihe Apoilerary, wom my majesty, and peacably proceeds to resume neighbours cali 'Sqwie Garnier of Wickhan', the possession of bis lucrative otñce in Tre. (Hirea mired cry !lear ! Har! atio land. Such, Gentlemen, is the partiality the Question.) This lir. Garnier, Gentle of ministers to the Wellesley family! to a men, is an apothecary, and receives a salafamily to which you pay annually, and I ry, perquisiten, and en slumeilts, anomia wish yo'ı to bear it in mind, no less than ing to 212,309. 10s. 5d a year für bing £-3,767, as appears by the following siate- Apothecary General to the Army. His ment:

perquisites are in proportion to the magni. Marquis Wellesley's Pension ...

· 25,000

tude of that anany, and the numeer of Marquis an i W. Pole with Prevision to Sur

wounds they recrive. Such a 0, of course, vivor.Remembrancer of Civil Lise in Ire

must like ihe duration cf war. It is the land


fault oi government that he should have Hon. Henry Wellesley, Sec. to the Treasury 4,097

such an incovie." Huni. W. ole, Sec. to the Admiralty Sir Artur Wellesley's anish Secretaryship (Re

Here Sir Francis Baring rose to order port made in June, 1808)

6,566 but the great body of the meeting calli,

Go on, Go on;" the honourable bu ise! £23,767

could not obtain a lears observe, you are paying to The Siltalt observed, that he hongial those, whose intluence is employed for any every thing irrelevant to the question should oiher purpose than that of serving you. Of be omitted upon this occasioni, and if iled the magnitude of this sum, you will be alile was any difference of opiuion "pon his to judge when I tell you, that, upon an subjeci, lie lust take the sense of the meri average of England and Wales, it is eqrial ing upon it, bcing determined to preser re to the poor's rates of sixty parishes; and strict impartiallity. to the asseshed taxes of seventy-tuo pa. Mr. COBBETT-" I have. Gentlemen, lo rishes. According to a Report from a apol giz: to you for having already detained Comitee of the House of Commons you so long, by cvtering into what i conceive presented in June last, it appears, that 10 be perfectly regular and relevant to the at that time Sir Arthur's salary was question at issue ; but I will regulate my given to him in his capacity of chief se- 1 conduct by your judgment."--( An arus cretary in Ireland, although lis was the untersal vry of No, No; Go on, Gu 07," under pay as a General upon inu Srull going ensund) to Portugal.—Perhaps it may not be amiss Sir FRANCIS BARING observed, that the for some of you to be informed what a Stati meling va cailed for a special purpose : Olñcer is. A Start Officer is generally a that thuij u pose was of a prible, not a prin culonel of some regimuut selecied for his i vale nature, and therefore it was, in his epi. a mirable skill, b.avery, and experience to nion, tvinlly irregular lo introduce the nanie com and armies. Now, I have told you of an individual who lind nothing to do with mut these Officers amount to. 291 before ; the Convention. The honouralle geniloand what do you think they crist us? Why, man appeared to him not only to be niiking they cost us annually, besides their pay, as an attack upon Mr. Garnier, but also direci. colonels of regimen's, the

of ly attacking the government of their eru £25-4,770. 5s.' 10d. This is the sum, he ibere fore hoped, that, taking it uron Gentlemen), which we pay annually to ge- i principles of perfect justice, the Meeting nerals to command our armies ! And what would stricily Johere to the avowed purpose are the effects they produce? -A doubt has for which they had asst nobled. often been expressed to me by some of my Mr. COBBETT ihen resumed.-") was go• neglibours, that there can be any descrip. ing on, Gentlemen, to shew the existence

This sum,

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of motives likely to induce men to support | in a pension the sum of £18,000 a-yearany war or any minister, and to pursue a as colonel of the three battalions of foot course inconsistent with the interests of the guards, £6,000 --as commander-in-chief, public. I therefore meant to avail myself exclusive of his patronage and perquisites, of this public opportunity to urge my neigh- the sun of £10,000. I know not what lie bour, to link for themselves, rejecting the receives as colonel of the five battalions of the undoc influence which surch motives as I 60:h regiment, but I know that in addition have described are calculated to produce. to these sums, by an act passed in 1801 or (Appleuses) -I have, Genueman, a Petition 1802, the king was authorised 10 graiit to and Audress 10 propose for the conside- | bim, out of the lands belonging to the ration of this meeting. I am aware, that it public, called crown-lands (and in lieu, promuy be thought presumptuous in me to do bably, of the bishoprick of Ospaburglı),

I had rather it had fallen into other several manors, &c. in the fee simple, worili, hands; but having come here, I am re

as I have heard them estimated. ai £ 16,000 solved to do my dury. In this Petition a year, amounting in all to the enormous and Address it will be observed, that. I sum of £ 15,000 : add to these the interest allude to the Answer received by the corpo- of £5-1,000, lent him in 1801, out of the ration of London ; which corporation I am public money, without any consent of par(lesirous to support, as ihat Answer seems to liament, £2,700. The whole amount will have kicked them into courage. I refer in then be £50.700, equal to the poor's rates my Adilress to their observations with regard of 125 parishes, or the assessed taxes of 146, to former failures. It is fresh in the memory parishes! He is also ranger of iwo parks of every one, that there was a failure on and warden of the New Forest. From all. the part of the Duke of York at the Helder these the patronage he enjoys is immense ; -(des, yes, we all remember that!) These and we know but too well what patronage. are not times for men to be mealy-mouthed. is worth."-(Here a great noise ensued, by Ii is notorious that the duke of York com- the approbation of many, and the disappromanded an army', titted out at an expence bation of a few, upon the subject of this exceeding any thing of the kind upon former curious statement.) occasions. It consisted of the very flower The Rev. MR. POUltek, amidst the hisof England; who were under the necessity ses and bootings of the assembly, rose to of flying before the French, and were aliis speak to order. " I commend the zeal of mately hemmed up in a corner, where their those gentlemen," said he, “ who hiss before commander made a capitulation, by which they hear what I am going to say. -I or any he gave op, not any thing that he himself man in this meeting have surely a right 10' had gained, but what was obtained through speak to order. I did not rise sooner, on the bravery of others! By the valour of our account of the former person spoken of be. flects

, 8000 French sailors were safely lodged ing a near and dear relation to myself; but I in our barracks and guard ships, and these beg to submit to you, Mr. Sheriff, as chair. the Duke of York gave up, by his disgraceful man, whether the allusion to the illustrious · capitulation. That was a failure, surely, of personage just spoken of by the gentle : great magnitude, and yet it has nerer, to min, be relevant or not." this day, beea inquired in:0. Nearly the The voices calling out Go on, Go on, same kind of ministers that were then in Mr. Collett," were so numerous, that the power, now form the admin. cration ; and hizli sheriff could not get an opportunity of we have a right to think that these ministers stating his opinion. will not be nore anxious, if inconsistent MR. Cobbert then rose again, and contiwith their ininisterial interest, wo enter into nued." Genuemen, I do not conceive that an inquiry upon this occasion, than they I was in the smallest degree out of order; were on the other. Unless we press hard in but I will leave this subject by referring an appeal to bis Majesty himself, no effec. every one of you, as I have done the public tual Inquiry is likely to take place. (A cry of at large, to the Statement of F..cis, lately ".. Bravo! Bravo !')-It may not be inap- published by major Högan. I shall now, plicable to the subject in question, and'I Gentlemen, conclude with the expreshope it will vot be thought out of order, to sion of my particular wish, that those who slate how much the Duke of York, who do not read upon such subjecis, should then escaped inquiry, receives out of the know that we have an absolute right to petipublic money for his serrices. We have, tion the king. Nothing can stay this right.

as good a right to know the emolu- There was a time when the king prosecuted ments, aside services he prforms for them. persons for addressing him. And, let me The Duke of York receives from the country tell you, one of the events that followed was


the dethronement of that king; another, the tance to the preservation of our liberties, appointment of a successor ; and a third, that this right should at all times be freely the passing of a positive law, enacting

" erercised in all matters of public grievand establishing the right of the subject to ance, without obstruction or reprool, we petition. This right was declared, claimed, humbly pruy thut your majesty will be asserted, and enacted, by an act passed in the gruciously pleased in institute such an Ir. reign of William and Mary. The house of quiry relative to the said Couention, as lords being assembled, first drew up a De- will secure a full and open developement claration of the crimes of king James, stat. of the real causes of a transaction, which ing, that he had “ endeavoured to subvert has brought so fuul a stain upon the hoand extirpate the laws and liberties of this nour of our country, and has rendered kingdom; first, by assuming illegal powers;" unavailing the valour of your niajesty's and second, “ by comnitting and prosecut- troops, and the vast pecuniary sacrifices ing divers worthy prelates, for humbly pe- of your faithful, heavily burdened, and titioning to be excused from concurring to putient people. And this application to the the said assumed powers." We know, troin justice and paternal care of your mojesty history, that they afterwards declared what we decm the more necessary at this line, their rights and liberties should be here- " because, during the eveniual period of after. They claimed, demanded, and insisted the last fifteen years, various enterprises upon them, as the sole condition upon which und expeditions have been undertaken, in they would acknowledge William and Mary ; which the character of the country and the and one of them was this : That it is the " honour of your majesty's arms were con:

Right of the subject to petition the King." cerned, which have grievously failed and This is one amongst the express conditions disappointed the hopes and expectations of upon wlich the present king's family were the nation, and into which due inquiry called to the throne They bargained, not " has not been made." only for be preserving of those rights

The Rev. Mr. BAKER seconded this froin violation, but fron all utlempis mp

Antendient; by saying, that he would px on thein. Such is the language of the

do it if he did not conceive that every hones constitution and law of England, and upon

Englishmen should beartily concur in it, this strong ground it is, that I submit to

The Rey. Mr. POULTER next oifered him. you, Gentlemen, the following Audress :

self to the meeting Mr. High Sherift and TO THE KING's Most EXCELLPNT MAJESTY. Gentlemen, I vise for the purpose of reply"The huinble Audress and Petition of the ing to some of the observations which hava

" Noliity, Gentry, Clergy, Freeholders, fallen from the individual who has last ad. " and Inhabitants of the County of South- dressed you. In doing so I feel it my duly anyplon.

to limit myself to that part of his arguments 4. We your majesty's most dutiful su?jects, which are applicable to the subject for which " the nib.lily, gentry, clergy, freeholders,

we are convened, and which shall serve to “c. and intaritants of the county of South- lead to the ques:ion before us. 'Much stress

ampion, humbly uporoach your majesty has been land upon the Answer which the " with an expression of our deep regret at corporation of the City of London has rethe Conventiou lately entered into ly the

ceived from his .najesty. An endeavour bas "s commanders of your majesty's forces and

been inade to prove, that it gave no positive the communder of the French forces in promise of an acquiescence in the object

Portugal, a Convention which we drein sought by the address of that corporation. I disgraceful to your majesty's arms, great- contend for the contrary ; and feeling as I ly injurious lo the interest of this nation, do, that his majesty's Ansier on that point " and still more injurious to the interests was complete, explicit, ini satisfactory " and the glorious cuuse of your majesty's (VO! No! No !;—This being my opinion,

fuithful uliies, now engageil in a perilous I am not bound to refer to the orber part of " conflict for the recovery and preservation that Answer, which was alone applic be o

of their rights and liberties.- Mindful the irne spirit of tle Aure-s. in Chat Ad" that at the happy period when those lau's

dress was introduced extraneous matter, in were made, by wrich your mujesty's fr

my mind in an ill-advised, mtemperate, and mily was placed upon the throne of this indiscreet mapuer. To the address just read,

kingdom, it was claimed, demanded, and there is, I confess, no such objection, inas< insisted upon, solemnly assented to, and much as it limits its prayer to investigation, is

Lugally enacted, that it was the right of and prays for justice alone. There is no call

the subject to petition the king; and fully for punishment before investigation is in tia convinced that it is of the utmost impor

tuted, as in the Address from the Citizens of

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London. But, with the answer to these Ciii- Cobbett), although it has been my lot to zens before the country, let me ask the ne- bave smarted under thuir application. cessity of petitioring at all? Have we not (Hear/ hear!! I only ask in return the the highest authority in the kingdom pleds. saine right to form my own opinion, which ed to us, that an inquiry will be promptly he claims for hiniselt, and, when necessary, instituted into the causes which led to an to assert it mantilly and without constraint. event " that has disappointed the hopes and That the right to petition our sovereign expectations of the country?". Could I for is a great paramount privilege, secured a moment believe that such an inquiry would by law to the subjects of this country, not take place, there is no man in this as- is what I trust no

inan will

ever preo sembly who would exert his utmost erforts

to deny. Were that birthright of to obtain that object mire willingly than Britons invadel, most cheerfully would I myself.—Bui, witli the king's Answer before shed ihe last drop of my blood to recover me, I must declare that I am satisfied on and to re-assert it. But, although there can that point, and, therefore, think any appli- be no question as to the right, there may be cation to the thrine, for that which is alrea- a question as to ide expediency of exercising dy promised, quile unnecessary, and objec- it. It is because I seen its exercise at pretionable. In calling upon this meeting to sent inexpedient, that I oppose the resolution abstain from an unnecessary address, I repose of the noble lord, and the Address of the last no upjustifiable confidence in either his ma- speaker.-And, let it be remembered, that if jesty's Answer to the corporation of London, ever there was a part of the royal prerogative or in the sincerity of his ministers ; but I which the constitution of this kingdom treats call upon you to grant to a public instrument with most delicacy, it is that very part coming from such high aui harity, the same which the proposed Address calis in question, reliance as you are in the habit of observing | namely, the conclusion of treaties and con, in the ordinary intercourse of life. I know ventions and the appointment of officers, that it has been asserted, and I have seen it Ii inclined, I could also speculate, as the w:itten, that this instrument does not expli- friends to petitioning have done, on the citly promise investigation. In order to re- specific relation and general tendency of move all doubts upon that point, I am in this Convention, which has been so much possession of a fact which must be believed, reprobated. But so enamoured am I of faiz if I am entitled to the cominon credence of and public investigation, that I will abstain society : I therefore declare, in the most from hypothetical statements, and cosmit triqualified manner, and am contented to be the developement of the facts to that milibranded with the character of falsehood and try tribunal, which is the only onerow legald'aplicity if it prove otherwise, that an in- ly competent to come to a frir decision 1101 quiry is not only determined upon and about

Should there, from such deveto conmence, bat that it will be carried on Lipement, appear circuinstances which atrict in the most opeo and public manner. For the responsibility of his majesty's advisers, this information, I bave the highest autho- there is no doubt but ihat ihre zeal of party: rity, though not from one of the cabinet, and indeet of every member of the legislapat from a gentleman closely connected will ture, will institute, with respect to thein, ile and holding a confidential oifice in, the ad- fullest parliamentary investigation. The last ministration. This authority I am ready to speaker has attempted to impeach the chalame if called upon. ( Vame, name', name !) racter of general Sir Arthur Wellesley. On la obedience to the wishes of this meeting, I that point I put myself in direct opposition will name my authority, but beg leave to lobin (Mr. Cohbeti). Whether thai dis1117premise, that with ministers I have no con- guished oncer tills bis civil situation in Tree llection whatever, although much attached to land with aivaniage to the public I shall not them. I am indebted torihe fact to which I stop to inquire. I am not in possession of have alluded to my friend and neighbour any means to form 20 opinion upon that Mr. Sturges. Bourne (Loud lunghter, subject. I am contidentilaat it stands as mixed with disapprobation). I now pro bigh at home, as in the country where he Peed to observe on a part of the speech of has been so galiantly serving. If it should he gentleman who preceded me, with pe- stand rather higher in Portugal, it is because, culiar satisfaction ; because I there fully amongst bis brave companions in arms, his coincide in his opinion. Indeed, to difter character is so respected and established that rom a man of undoubted talents, a power- nothing in the shape of charge or even inte ul and argumentative writer, is not the mout sinuation has ever presumed to approach it, ratifying occurrence. - i bose great qualities (Heur! Heur!) Ask any one of' iliat bravo ain always ready to attribute to him (Mr. arasy where general Sir A. Wellesley was to

such a case.

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