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This might be intelligible, but it #as not the case. The men that had hitherto formed the British armies were men of stout hearts and habits: men of spirit and courage; lovers of bold enterprise. These were the materials of which an army must be composed: give him such men, though not of the better description: the worse men were the fittest for soldiers; keep the better at home. Upon these grounds, hemust vote for the clause as it now stood.

Lord Sidmouth agreed with the noble viscount, as to the advantages derived to the army from volunteering from the militia, but differed with him in his opinion as to the present system of enlistment. His lordship entered into a detail of the measures adopted for re cruiting the army during the last and present wars; and contended that the system of recruiting now in operation was the only measure to which the late administration could look with confidence for keeping up the army, without resorting to compulsory service, which, on every ground that could be stated, it was so desirable to

avoid. His lordship said he had entertained doubts as to the system introduced two years ago, though he had given it his support as an experiment then necessary, in consequence of the failure of the additional force act. That system had succeeded in the most ample manner, and had more than equalled the ordinary mode of recruiting and the additional force bill put together. He was satisfied that the old mode of recruiting would never be sufficient of itself, without some subsidiary system, such as the army of reserve. By the new system we had procured a force better in quality, in stature, and in morals. He was, therefore, of opinion that any thing which might go to deprive the country of any part of the benefit arising from the system of limited service must be prejudicial, and ought to be avoided.

The earl of Moira spoke on the same side, as did lord Holland: the earl of Westmoreland was against it. The duke of Glocester replied, and the motion was negatived with out a division, and the bill was almost immediately past into a law.

CHAPTER V.

Petition against the Bill to prevent the Exportation of Bark-Debate in the House of Lords on that Subject-Debate in the House of Commons on a New Reversion Bill-Debate in the House of Peers on the Bill to prevent the Exportation of Cotton-Debates on the Budget-Earl Stanbope's Motion on the Indictment Bill-Lord Castlereagh's Motion on the Local Militia -Mr. Perceval's Motion and Resolutions on the New Plan of Finance.

WE have been obliged to pass tation of bark; which having pass

over some interesting debates in the house of commons; among these was that on the expor

ed the lower house, and been read a first and second time in the house of peers, a petition was presented

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against it by an individual M. de Testat, who, under license from the Spanish government, had opened a trade with the Spanish dominions in South America, by which means he exported a considerable quantity of British manufactures, and imported bark, of which he had a very large quantity on hand: his petition went to prove that the bill would be productive of serious injury to him. On the 7th of April he was heard by counsel, and witnesses were called to support the allegations contained in the petition. As soon as the counsel was withdrawn, the question was put for the third reading of the bill; upon which

Earl Bathurst stated the object of the bill, which, he said, had been miscalled a bill of privatior, as it went to allow the exportation of bark upon certain conditions. Information had been received, that the French government, wishing to obtain a supply of this article, had given directions that this article should be admitted into the French ports, although coming from this country, provided it formed the sole cargo of the vessel. It was thought a little too much, that the enemy should not only obtain this article of which he stood in need, but should also obtain it upon his own terms; and therefore this measure was resorted to, in order that the enemy might be prevented from obtaining a supply of this article, unless he took with it British colonial produce, or British manufactures. He could not conceive, therefore, that this bill was liable to any of those objections which had been urged against it. A noble and learned lord had, on a former night, urged an objection to it on the ground of religion; but surely there could be nothing in

consistent with the dispensations of Providence in assisting and pro moting human industry.

Lord Erskine, notwithstanding the arguments of the noble earl, still maintained the opinion which he before urged, that this measure was contrary to the dictates of religion and the principles of huma nity; and so strongly did he feel upon this subject, that he intended, in case the house agreed to the bill, to embody the reasons which operated in his mind against it in the form of a protest, in order that they might remain upon the journals of the house, and go down to posterity. It could not be said to be analogous to the case of a siege, because there the object was, in forcing the besieged to endure privations, to compel them to surrender, by which they might put an end to those privations; but by this measure, sickness and disease were to be bereft of a medicine which was an effectual remedy, and this without any object to be attained, but that of distressing the m nocent inhabitants of the continent. Such a mode of warfare was inconsistent with the dictates of the christian religion; and he rejoiced that, on this occasion, the reverend prelates, who usually attended that house, did not attend to vote in favour of this measure. As to the information stated by the noble earl to have been received, that house knew nothing of it, and therefore it could not form a ground of supporting this measure...

The earl of Westmoreland, lord Mulgrave, and lord Redesdale sup ported the bill. The earl of Albemarle, lord Holland, and the earl of Lauderdale, opposed it; as did also lord Grenville, who particularly cautioned the house to look well at the consideration they were tore

as the price of the honour, justice, and humanity of the country. The assertion of the noble lord (Mulgrave) that we were entitled to resort to whatever species of warfare might be adopted against us, he confessed surprised him not a little. Were we, if at war with a nation of Indians, because they might scalp our men who fell into their hands, to retaliate on them by scalping their people in return? If at war with the Persians, and they penred poisoned weapons into our tents, were we to poison the weapons with which we fought? If they poisoned our streams of water, were we to retaliate by poisoning their fountains? If they employed assassination against us, were we to turn our swords from fair and honourable war, to match them in deeds of treachery and disgrace? Such, he thanked God, had never been our system of waging war; nor, till the present measures were introduced, had we ever sacrificed a particle of our national charactér. It had been remarked, that one of the greatest crnaments of the city of Lyons was an hospital for the sick and infirm: when that city was attacked by Robespierre, he ordered his cannon to be directed principally against this struc ture, as being an object the destruction of which gave peculiar delight to his sanguinary and inhuman disposition. In adopting the present measure, we endeavoured to assis milate ourselves to that monster of inhumanity; for what else was the present bill, but a cannon directed against the hospitals on the continent? The bill, however, had this additional disadvantage, that it was completely futile and inadequate. So all that we should gain by the measure would be, to evince

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Lord Grenville presented a clause by way of rider, with a view to indemnify individuals who should be injured by the bill.

Lord Hawkesbury opposed the clause, as laying down a bad precedent, and it was rejected without a division. The bill was then passed without any further opposition.

On the same day, in the lower house, another reversion bill, which had passed through some of the forms, was debated at length: we shall give an abridged account of the speeches made by Mr. Bankes, and the chancellor of the exchequer, which will abundantly explain the nature of the measure.

Mr. Bankes rose, and reminded the committee of the situation in which they now stood, from the former bill having been rejected by the lords. They were therefore precluded, in point of form, from bringing forward exactly the same measure this session. It was on this account that he had brought in a bill, with a limitation in point of time. If this was carried, it would at least secure one object,

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namely, the prevention of any new grant during the limited period, which might affect the proceedings of the committee. With respect to the great measure of absolutely restricting the crown from granting offices in reversion, his object now was to proceed in the most conciliating manner possible, without sacrificing the principle of the measure. In opening his views as to the limitation of time, he thought it in vain to propose a longer period, than that which had been proposed in the house of lords. This period (two years) was too short, in his opinion; but if he were to introduce a longer period, as ten years for instance, he rather feared it would cut off all chance of the passing of the bill, and disturb the harmony of the two houses. But it had been suggested to him, that this period of two years would be the most offensive that could be introduced, for it was exactly that which the lords themselves had rejected. This consideration had determined him to relinquish this period, and to propose one which he hoped would be equally useful, without subjecting the bill to so much risk. He intended, therefore, that the blank be filled up, with a provision that the bill should be in force for one year from the passing of the act, and from the close of that period to the end of six weeks from the commencement of the subsequent session of parliament. This would secure the remaining part of the present session, the whole of the next session, and six weeks of the session following. He hoped the house would be satisfied with this at present, with the understanding, that they gave up no part of the principle; but still looked forward to the further ob

ject of having the measure rendered permanent. The term would be sufficient for some of the purposes which the committee had in view, and therefore was applicable to the situation in which the house had been placed. He had heard that some objection had been taken on the ground that the reasons for the bill had been stated in the preamble. In the spirit of concilation which he wished to preserve, be would move that it should be stated in the preamble, that the measure was connected with something at present pending in the house of commons, and that the words "suspended for a limited time" should be substituted for the abso lute prohibition. He hoped his right honourable, friend (Perceval) would see that he was disposed to go every possible length for the sake of harmony.

The chancellor of the exchequer was unwilling that the house, in pursuit of the measure which it thought necessary to be adopted on this occasion, should send back to the lords a bill so entirely similar to that they had before rejected, that their concurrence could not possibly, with any regard to their forms or consistency, be expected.. On this ground, he had, on a former night, when his honourable friend proposed a bill similar, if not altogether the same as that so recently rejected in the upper house, intimated in what respects he considered the mode adopted by his honourable friend improper. He admitted then, as well as now, that the limitation in point of time, proposed by a noble friend of his (lord Hawkesbury) in the other house, had his entire concurrence. He therefore could have no objection to that feature of the bill now be

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fore the house, otherwise than as being conveyed in a manner in which it could not be expected to pass the other house. He had at that time intimated his intention of proposing a clause, the object of which was entirely mistaken. Understanding that one great ground of complaint against grants in reversion was, that the want of notoriety attending them was likely often to give occasion to their being given to improper persons, he suggested as a remedy, that every future grant of the kind should be published in the Gazette. This proposition for regulating the mode of granting, was supposed to imply a determination that grants in reversion should be made, whereas the object of the committee of finance was to keep every office as free and open as possible to any reform they might think proper to introduce. His proposition was by no means intended to impede this object; but having been so misunderstood, and misrepresent ed, he should abandon it. He was glad to find that so far, at least, he proceeded with the general approbation of the house. With the alteration in the preamble, also, he gladly coincided, as it fell in with the wish of presenting a new measure to the other house. The former bills proposed to abolish grants in reversion altogether. The present proposed only to suspend the exercise of that part of the prero gative for a time to be limited. Thus the present bill was different from others in substance and form. Whether, after all, the measure was likely to be so supported in the lords as to pass that house, it was not for him to say; but he thought it incumbent on the friends of the measure, and on the friends of the cordiality of both houses, to avoid

framing it so that there would be obvious ground of objection on the face of it, and consequently very little probability that it would pass. On these grounds he approved of the measure as it was now proposed by his honourable friend, and forbore to press the amendments he had on a former night suggested. He had had some other amendments also in view, all tending to the same effect, of making the measure more acceptable to the lords, by coming in a new shape; but he confessed that the course pursued by the honourable gentleman, on mature consideration of all the circumstances and all the reasons connected with the general principle, rendered these amendments unnecessary. His opinion of the bill itself was not changed. He neither saw those great benefits which some supposed likely to result from it, in point of public economy; nor did he see that danger to the prerogative which existed in the apprehensions of some of the lords. So far as it was represented to the public, that any great diminution of its burthens could be effected by the retrenchment of these offices, the promise was delusive, and would be attended with great disappointment; to that representation, therefore, he wished to be no party. On the other hand, with respect to the prerogative of the crown, though some alteration may be made by the bill for the present, by taking away the liberty of making grants in reversion, yet, when the offices so granted should fall in, the power of the crown, in that respect, would be increased rather than diminished. He was of opinion, that grants in reversion were often a cheap mode. of rewarding public service, which would otherwise be to be rewarded

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