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as I am credibly informed, always voted, I wanting persons to charge me with disloyalty, upon ull occasions, for the ministry of the because I wish the Portugal generals to le day. This I know, that, while Lord Gren- tried, and because I object to Mr. Garnier's ville and his colleagues were in power, the receiving twelve thousand a year out of the Garnier family supported, and that too with taxes for doing nothing. It has, Gentlemen, great zeal, Messrs. Herbert and Thistle. been the constant practice of those, who thwaite, and that, when the dissolution live upon the public money, to answer their took place upon the turning out of that mi- accusers, not by showing, or attempting to nistry, the Garwier family as zealously sup- show, that they merited the money they ported Sir Henry Mildınay and Mr Chute; received out of the taxes, but by charges of against whom they had used such strenuous disloyalty. Tell one of them íhat he wal. exertions only about eight or nine months lows in luxury at the expence of a hardbefore. The fact is, Gentleinen, and you working and half-starved people : his anmust see it clearly, that persons so situated swer is, that you wish to overturn the must obey whomsoever is minister; for, government ; for, you will always perthough, as in this case, the place may not ceive, that, with this tribe, government and be liable to be actually taken away; yet, impunity for public plundering means the where the amount is not precisely fixed, the same thing. Just as if you must necessarily minister has it in his power to render it, by be a traitor, because your temper will not one means or another, worth little or no. permit you to see your money taken away, , where

is it!

serves, let us take care that no answer ut and correct, the latter having so many means this sort shall have its intended effect ; let of embarrassing and worrying and persecu- us not waste our breath in refuting the ting him. So ihat, you see, the loss of the charge of high treason, but continue to urge money is not the only, nor is it the least evil. our accusation, reserving our own defence The money is lost to us in the first place, till a defence has been made by those whom and, next, it makes part of our countrymen

we shall accuse. Talk as long as we will, join the minister in support of bis imposing here is the root of the evil. The public heavier burdens on us, or, as at the present money, the money paid by the people in time, in an endeavour to stifle the voice of taxes, do, and will, 'till a constitutional the people. Let us trace this a little more reform take place, operate in a way to iniputely. Mr. Garnier receives, as you deprive the people of their spirit, and, of have seen, twelve thousand pounds a year course, of their rights. But, Gentlemen, out of the taxes, raised upon the nation. because to effect this reform is difficult; These twelve thousand pounds a year must, because we do not, at once, clearly perunless they be buried under ground, or ceive the grounds of a hope of accomplishlocked up in a chest, produce a proportionate ing it, let us not, therefore, say, that the influence. The depositing and employing thing is out of our power. Every thing and expending them creates an influence almost, from which any advantage, public amongst all descriptions of persons: bankers, or private, is to arise, appears difficult at stewards, farmers, timber merchants, trades. firsi ; but, when once, we heartily set about men of all sorts. This influence is at all it, the difficullies, however great and 10times exercised in behalf of the minister of merous, soon appear less both in number the day; and, therefore, it inevitably follows, and in mainitude. What we want is public that the greatness of the power of the mi- | virtue. Possessed of that, everything, nistry of the day, is in exact proportion to which reason bidges wish to attain, would the amount of what we pay in taxes; or, be soon in our power. But, that is indisin other words, that, from the moment that pensable. Men must come with their hands the public treasure becomes a source of in- clean and their minds perfectly independent ; fiuence at elections and other public meet- that is to say, perfectly free from selfish ings, laration and alsolute power grow up views, or they will do nothing good. We together like the bark and wood.

are seduced into degradation; and a great Gentlemen, I know, that this is termed additional mortification, is, that we are democratical and jacobinical taik. Alas! seduced with our own money.

We are the Gentlemen, these words have done wonders. slaves of that gold, which we ourselves hake The late minister, Pitt, of wasteful me- earned with the sweat of our brow. Gen. mory, drew millions upon millions ont of tlemen, my sincere opinion' is, that nopur pockets by the help of a few words of thing, can preserve this country from bethis sort. I dare say, that there will not be coming a conquest of France, but a cou.



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stitutional reform of the abuses, which now following effect: -" Mr. High Sheriff ; so notoriously exist, and some of which I had far from disapproving of any part of the Rethe honour to poiot out to the meeting solution which has just now been read, I yesterday. The manner, in which the have to state, that I heartily approve of every meeting received my statenent; the benty word of it. I have, however, a propositiva welcome which was given to sound princi- to submit to the meeting, which I hupe, alples and boire truths, expressed in direct ihough coming from a person of so little and plain terms, encourages me to hope, consequence as niyself, will meet with the that the breasts and minds of my country- | approbation of this meeting. It will emmen will, as those of their fithers were, brace the object of this liesolution, while it yet be found to be the seat of courage and will go farther, but yet, I hope, not 100 far. of sense; anıl, that the day is much less As to the merits or demerits of the Coureddistant than the corruptors and the corrupted tion, I think that is a question pretty nearly imagine, when a proper exertion of these set at rest; for I have never heard from be, will produce its natural effects.

lips of any of those who are hostile in a Pe I remain,

riviou or Address to bis Majesty for an tGeutlemen,

quiry, any argument in justification of that Your friend?

Convention. Tu bas been urged, that are

Wm. COBBETT. petition for inqniry is unnecessary. Who Winchester, 3d Nov. 1903.

told us so? Fiom whence is his mizjesty 1

receive such a request but troin his people HAMPSHIRE MEETING.

We are told that he has already given a

auswer to the Pention of the citizens On Wednesday, the 2d instant, pursuant London, intorming them that a drie inquiry to a public requisition, the High Sherift, will be instituied. He has not giren ant George Hanbury Mitchell, Esq. convened a such answer to us, the inhabitants of Hamp Meeting of the nobility, gentry, freeholders, shire-(hear! hear! hear!) When the and inhabitants of the county of Southamp. tell us that we ought not to present a Pear. ton, at the Castle of Winchester, for the pur- tion, because the city of London has to pose of taking into their consideration the ceived an Answer (of which I shall bereafta propriety of addressing bis majesty npon the speak more in detail), they do not tell subject of the Convention of Cintra. The that that Answer was satisfactory. So meeting was numerous and highly respecta- tron it, we know that the Common Cound ble. The High Sheriff having taken the have expressly declared that it is not sare chair,

factory, but that it was an ringracious As Lord NORTHESK presented himself to the swer, and, as such, it is entered upon the attention of the meeting, for the purpose of Juuraals. Therefore, if we have received proposing a Resolution. He hoped that on Answer through the city of London, it is a subject involving deeply the character and unsatisfactory answer-(Applauses). So the interests of the country, it would not ie it the Answer to the city of London be deemed a presumption in him to otter to duce't as a reason against our proceeding, their consideration a motin:1, expressive of have the authority of that city itself, ius con The wishes of the county of Hants, to request sidering that Answer unsatistactur-14 a full Inquiry into the causes which led in plauses). This, Gentlemen, is almost the ting that disgraceful event, the Convention of time of my addressing a public assembly; Cintra. After these prefatory remarks, his I only inieod 10 present to you a few play Bordship proposed the following Resolution : facts, such as my neighbours onght to knux

Resolved, Thot an huml'le and dutiful neighbours, whom I am proud to acknogle " Address and Petition be presented to his and from whose public spirie I enter aiuc

majesty, expressing our grief and regret al siderable hopes, notwithstanding the tree " the Conveniion laiely entered into ly the ment i buy have beretofore experienced, • commanders of his majesty's forces in Por- withstanding the time and manner in ulike

tugal, and the commander of the French they have been trodden down (dopiruses. " army in Lisbon, praying his majesty to We know, Gentlemen, tht Sir Arts institute. such full, pubric, and Hectual Wellesley, one of ive commanders tipon

Inquiry into this transaction, as will lead occasion which has called os togeiber, is 3d to the discovery of all those causes which one of his Majesty's niinisiers, and we are produced an event so injurious to the ho- toll, that wirich it is very palural to sup1

nour of this country, and the interest of that those ministers are auxions io stes « its allies."

him. lo speaking of the conduct of my Mr. COBBSTT then rose an i spoke to the ters opon this occasion, and particularly


the King's Apswer to 'the city of London, I | land, althongh it was impossible for him.10 bey to be understood as alluding solely 10 execute its duties. - Wbence this extraordi. ministers - Dot at all meaning to implicate nary partiality? Why, because the Weiles. his Majesty

This I premise, in orier 10 Jey family have no less than twelve votes in guard against mistake or misconstruction. The House of Commons. (Applauses. ) - What In my opinion, it is quite evident, that bis is the next step of ministeri, partiality to. Majesty's ministers are fully determined to wards this commander ? dlo blame was in. green Sir Arthur Wellesley. The proots of poled to big. Noidea of irying him was even this delermination are manifest. In the insinuated. He was not, in fact, recailed first place, when the news arrived of the from the army, but allowed to come home disgraceful Convention, ministers withheld upon leave of absence.- And here let me rethe communication as long as possible, and mark,that although one of the pleas or apolowhen at last obliged to make the commu- gies for concluding this intamous Convention nication to the abused people of this coun- was, that it would enable our army to march ry, in what manner did they do it? That more expeditiously to the aid of the part which it was most material to know; Spaniards; yet, when they were so which, in fact, forıned the basis of the abled, their comunander, Wellesley, came whole; namely, the Armistice which was home, and left the army to go by itself. He igned by Sir Arthur Wellesley, was pub- came home before the other commanders, ished in the French language. My neigh- in order to tell the first story-in order to Hurs do not understand French. God for- have an undue advantage over bis colleagues, id that they ever should! (Applauses ) -Then, wbat is done npon his arrival? "hey do not understand the meaning of the He is introduced at the king's levee ; and on erms - Duc d'Abruntes," nor “ Chevalier du che very day, too, that the corporation of kain." Why did ministers give this part of Lundon present their Address. I ook at the je communication in French, while

the contrast between the treatment experienced emainder was given in Eaglish? The rea- by that corporation, and the reception of on is obvious. "And in this act alone I see Sir Arthur Wellesley! Althongh there roof enongh of their determination to screen were divers great persons at that levee ; allat man. ( Applauses. Now, 25. to the though there was a bishop and a judge bject of their preference. Sir Arthur Welo along the cirde, Sir Arthur Wellesley was sley, it is well known, allied to the first person presented to his majesty : owerful family, which has risen to predo- and most graciously was he received ! But jinance, gol by great or useful talents of further suill. After being thus cordially ay description, not by eminent or landable treated by his majesty, Sir Arthur is sent 10 hievements, but by beating the poor In- resume inis office in lieland, tor which, az ans, just as a dog would hunt a flock of I have already observed, he has been all jeep. Why, Gentlenien, Sir Arıbur Wel- along in ide receipt of £6,500 a year, sley has no claim to the merit of general- Does this imply any inclination to subject Hip for bis boasted victories in India ; for Sir Arthur Wellesley to censure, or to bring de chousand English soldiers would beat him to trial? Quite the contrary. And in thousand Indians, with as much eace as my firm belief is, that in order to screen vo of your dogs would drive a flock of what commander, ministers will use their jeep out of a pinfold. (Laughter and ap- evdeavours to screen his colleagues ; from a laicuI wish, Gentlemen, that this com- just apprehension, that it these colleagues ander was here to hear me; bu, alıbough are brought to trial, they would probably e by not present, there can be no doubt impeach Wellesley.

Für ihese reasons, at in a country where the minister bas the ministers may well be suspected, of a de. istribution of seventy millions a year of the termination to prevent any ihing like ertecublic money, there is scarcely a foot of it tual inquiry. (Loud applause's )-But, G-9

which their favourite will not find a temen, you cannot help being surprised, jend. Let any such friend now answer that ministers should have thought it proper le, and correct me if I am wrong, in stating to employ Sir Arthur Wellesley at all, upon de salaries and the services of Sir Arthur this occasion, when they had such a numVellesley. Before he lett ibis country, that ber of generals, from among whom they fficer enjoyed a salary of £0506 as chief could select a commander. What was the ecretary of state in Ireland, besides his pay necessiiy, then, for sending out ihat ofiicer: 3 colonel of a regiment, Ministers take Why, Gentlemen, we have it this moment, in from that office and send him abroad as a Stati consisting of no less than 201 gegeneral; still leaving lio in possession of

nerals. What a boasi ! (A luugh.). The we e:pujunents of his secretaryship in Ire- French have not half su many. Among


these officers we have six field inarshals !-- tion of persons in the country, so destitute There were, I say. 291 generals, of whom of humanity, who can feel aty wish for the Sir Arthur Wellesley was one; and, out of prolongation of war. They ifen ask me, all these officers, a man could not be chosen why do any men wish a continuation of ihe to send to Portugal, without withdrawing


Above all, say they, the government from Ireland its chief-secretary, upon whom of the country cannot be desirous for its du. so much of the government of that part of ration. But, I could now, Gentlemen, the United Kingdom rests. Well, Genrie. begin to read a list which would occupy two inen, Sir Arthur goes out as a major gene. hours, of persons whose great interest con. ral, and, after being deeply implicated in a sists in the duration of war, at all events, transaction that “ has disappointed the and under ail circumstances and hazards. I “ hopes and expectations of the country," shall mention ore case to you. There is he comes back, is cordially greeted by his Mr. Garnier, the Apothecity, whom my majesty, and peacably proceeds to resume neiglıbours call 'Sq: ire Garnier of Wickham, the possession of his lucrative office in Ire. (Here a mized cry of Herig! Hear! and 10 land. Such, Gentlemen, is the partiality the Question.) This Mr. Garnier, Gentleof ministers to the Wellesley family! to a men, is an apothecary, and receives a sala. , family to which you pay annually, and I ry, perquisites, and emoluments, amountwish you to bear it in mind, no less than ; ing to £12,309. 10s. 5d a year for being £23,767, as appears by the following state- Apothecary General to the Army. His meni:

perquisites are in proportion 10 the magoiM. squis Wellesley's Pension ...


tudle of that army, and the number of Marysis and W. Pole with Provision to Sur

wounds they receive. Such a man, of course, vivor,Remembrancer of Civil List in lie

inust like ihe duration of war. It is the land

4,201 Hon. Henry Wellesley, Sec. to the Treasury 4,000

fault of government that he should have Hon. W. Pole, Sec. to the Adiniralty

such an income."

4,000 Sir Arthur Wellesley's Irish Secretaryship (Re

Here Sir Francis Baring rose to order ;port made in June, 1808)


but the great body of the meeting calling out

Go on, Go on;" the honourable baronet £23,767

could not obtain a hearing. This sum, observe,

you are paying to The SHERIFF observed, that be thought those, whose influence is employed for any every thing irrelevant to the question should other purpose than that of serving you. Of be oniried upon this occasion, and if there the inagnitude of this sum, you will be able was any difference of opinion rpon this 10 judge when I tell you, that, upon an subject, he must take the sense of the meet. average of England and Wales, it is equal ing upon it, being determined to preser ve to the poor's rates of sixty parishes; and strict impartiallity: to the assessed taxes of seventy-two pa. Mr. COBBETT-" I have, Gentlemen, to rishes. . According to a Report from a apologize to you for having already detained Committee of the House of Commons you so long, by entering into what I cuoceive presented in June last, it appears, that to be perfectly regular and relevant to the at that time Sir Arthur's salary was question at issue ; but I will regulaté my given to him in his capacity of chief se- conduct by your judgment."-(an almost cretary in Ireland, although he was then universal cry of No, No; Go on, Goor," under pay as a General upon the Staff going ensued) to Portugal. Perhaps it may not be amiss Sir Francis BARING observed, that the for some of you to be informed wbat a Staff meeting was called for a special purpose; Officer is. A Staff Officer is generally a that that purpose was of a public, not a pricolonel of some regiment selected for his vate nature, and therefore it was, in his opiadmirable skill, bravery, and experience to nion, totally irregular to introduce the name command armies. Now, I have told you of an individual who had nothing to do with that these Officers amount to 291 before ; ibe Convention. The honourable gende: and what do you think they cost us? Why, man appeared to him not only to be making they cost us annually, besides their pay, as an attack upon Mr. Garnier, but also directcolonels regiments, the sum of ly attacking the governmčit of the country £254,776. 5s. Tod. This is the sum, he therefore hoped, that, taking it upon the Gentlemen, which we pay annually to ge. principles of perfect justice, The Meeting nerals to command our armies ! And what would strictly adhere to the avowed purpose are the effects they produce ?-A doubt has for which they had assembled. often been expressed to me by some of my Mr. Cobbett thén résumed. "I wasgoneighbours, that there can be any descrip- ing on, Gentlemen, to shew'thie existence

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of motives likely to induce men to support in a pension the sum of £18,000 2-yearany war or any minister, and to pursue a as colonel of the three battalions of foot course inconsistent with the interests of the guards, £6,000-as commander-in-chief, Dublic. therefore meant to avail myself exclusive of his patronage and perquisites,

{ this public opportunity to urge my neigh- the sum of £10,000. I know not what he yours to think for themselves, rejeciing the receives as colonel of the five battalions of tlie lague influence which such motives as I ooth regiment, but I know that in addition ure described are calculated to produce. to these sums, by an act passed in 1801 or

40 plays.)-I have, Gentleman, a Petition 1902, the king was authorised to grant to and Address tu propuse for the conside- him, out of the lands belonging to the aion of this meeting. I am aware, that it public, called crown-lands (and in lieu, proaisy be thought presunsp:uons in me to do bably, of the bishoprick of Osvaburgh), -). I had rather it had fallen into orher several manors, &c. in the fee simple, worth, 26s; but having come here, I am as I have heard them estimated. at £16,000

ved to do iny duty. In this persion a year, an outing in all to the enormous 3. Address it will be obserrel, that I sum of £48,000 : add to these the interest Tide to the Answer received by the corpo- of €54,000, lent himn in 1801, out of the

ution of London; which corporation 1 am public money, without any consent of par. lesirous to support, as that Answer seems to liament, at 2,700. The whole amount will are kicked ideo: into courage. I reter in then be £50,700, equal to the poor's rates ny Address to their observations with regud of 125 parishes, or the assessed taxes of 146 o furmer failures. It is fiesh in the memory parishes! He is also ranger of two parks of every one', that there was a failure on and warden of the New Forest. From all be part of the Duke of York at the Helder these the patronage he enjoys is immense ; -Yes, yes, we all rememler thut !) These and we know but 100 well what patronage re not times for men to be meals-mouthed. is worth."-(Here a great noise ensued, ly l is notorious that the duke of York com- the approbation of many, and the disappropanded an army, titted out at an expence bation of a few, upon the subject of this xceeding any thing of the kind upon former curious statemenl.) ccasions. It consisted of the very flower The Rev. Mr. Poultek, amidst the his. f England, who were under the necessity ses and hootings of the assembly, rose to of flying before the French, and were ulii. speak to order. * I commend the zeal of nately hemined up in a corner, where their those gentlemen," said he,“ who hiss before ommander made a capitulation, by which they lear what I am going to say.-I or any le gave up, not any thing that he himself man in this meeting have surely right 10 ad gained, but what was obtained ihrough · speak to order. I did not rise sooner, on be bravery of others ! By the valour of our account of the former person spoken of be. eets, 9000 French sailɔrs were safely lodgeding a near and dear relation to myself; but I 2 our barracks and guard ships, and these beg to submit to you, Mr. Sheriff, as chairhe Duke of York gave up, by his disgraceful man, whether the allusion to the illustrious apitulation." That was a failure, surely, of personage just spoken of by the gentlereát magnitude, and yet it has never, to man, bę relevant or not." nis day, been inquired into. Nearly the The voices calling out " Go on, Go on, ame kind of ministers that were then in Mr. Colbell," were so pumerous, that the lower, now form the administration; and high sheriff could not get an opportunity of ve have a right to think that these ministers stating his opinion. vill not be more anxious, if inconsistent MR. Cobbett then rose again, and conti. vith their ministerial interest, to enter into nued." Gentlemen, I do not conceive that in inquiry upon this occasion, than they I was in the smallest degree out of order; vere on the other. Unless we press hard in but I will leave this subject by referring 10 appeal to bis Majesty himself, no effec- every one of you, as I have done the public tural Inquiry is likely to take place. (A cry of at large, to the Statement of Facts, lately " Bravo! Bravo !")-It may not be inap. published by major Hugan. I sliall 101, plicable to the subject in question, and I Gentlemen, conclude

with the expresbope it will not be thought out of order, to sion of my particular wish, that those who state how much the Duke of York, who do not read upon such subjects, should then escaped inquiry, receives out of the know that we have an absolute right to petipublic money for his services. We have, tion the king. Nothing can stay this right. surely, as good a right to know the emolu- There was a time when the king prosecuted ments, as the services he perforins for them. persons for addressing him. And, let me The Duke of Yorķ receives from the country tell you, one of the events that followed was

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